Why does the Crane 2032 Cam suck??
Its maybe good for a bone stock TPI system, but I unfortuantly used that cam once on a 383 modified TPI setup, and it was a joke.. It pulled from like 2300-4000 rpms..Thats it... We called it the RV cam, due to its powerband, or should I say non existant powerband.. I was much happier with a Accel (LPE) 74219 cam.
So should I replace my 2032 Crane cam? I plan on getting AFR heads and a Super Ram (or possibly a high flow long tube setup). My mods are in the sig. I will also have various suspension pieces and a 3.42 rear. Will my cam do okay, or should I get a new one? If so, what cam do you guys recommend? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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1984 Camaro Sport Coupe - Rebuilt 355 S/D TPI L98, Crane 2032 CompuCam, Crane adjustable fuel pressure regulator, MSD Blaster coil, custom burned PROM, stock TPI intake, Accel 24# injectors, gutted air box with K&N filters
F41 Suspension Package, 700R4 Tranny, TCI Breakaway torque converter, 3.27 Posi Rear
Hooker Shorty Headers, Catco High-Flow 3" Cat, Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Cat-Back
Best 1/4 Mile Run:
14.137 @ 94.57 MPH
1992 1LE B4C Police Camaro RS - 305 TPI 5-Speed
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1984 Camaro Sport Coupe - Rebuilt 355 S/D TPI L98, Crane 2032 CompuCam, Crane adjustable fuel pressure regulator, MSD Blaster coil, custom burned PROM, stock TPI intake, Accel 24# injectors, gutted air box with K&N filters
F41 Suspension Package, 700R4 Tranny, TCI Breakaway torque converter, 3.27 Posi Rear
Hooker Shorty Headers, Catco High-Flow 3" Cat, Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Cat-Back
Best 1/4 Mile Run:
14.137 @ 94.57 MPH
1992 1LE B4C Police Camaro RS - 305 TPI 5-Speed
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From: Tucson, Arizona USA
Car: 1987 Z28 Convertible
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 5-speed
Odd... it works great in my 305.
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Willie
Supercharged 1987 305 IROC-Z, Daily-Driver, Emissions-Legal.
Former Paxton (6-psig) with 50-hp nitrous: 12.043 @ 112.86 mph.
ATI D1SC (10-psig): 12.056 @ 116.62 mph.
All stats are altitude corrected for 3,100 feet using NHRA's Altitude Correction Table.
http://willie.camaro-firebird.org/
1987 "20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition" Z28 Convertible -- Super Chevy Show Class Winner, 1998.
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Willie
Supercharged 1987 305 IROC-Z, Daily-Driver, Emissions-Legal.
Former Paxton (6-psig) with 50-hp nitrous: 12.043 @ 112.86 mph.
ATI D1SC (10-psig): 12.056 @ 116.62 mph.
All stats are altitude corrected for 3,100 feet using NHRA's Altitude Correction Table.
http://willie.camaro-firebird.org/
1987 "20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition" Z28 Convertible -- Super Chevy Show Class Winner, 1998.
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From: Cincy, OH
Car: 1986 Trans Am
Engine: 305 TPI peanut cam
Transmission: 700R4
Willie, Thanks for the info and links. I now know which way I plan to go with the peanut cam. I also surfed the home site is Aus.
Found a few good info bits.
I'd been playing in Dyno2000 and Crane 2030 or 2040 (non roller) and World Products SRT305 heads for sure!
THX!
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86 T/A 5.0 A4 & 2.77 gear
15.62 @ 86 mph
93 Civic 1.6L
13.5 @ 100 mph
Found a few good info bits.
I'd been playing in Dyno2000 and Crane 2030 or 2040 (non roller) and World Products SRT305 heads for sure!
THX!
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86 T/A 5.0 A4 & 2.77 gear
15.62 @ 86 mph
93 Civic 1.6L
13.5 @ 100 mph
Well you need to get a Cam that matches you set up best. Any form of forced induction needs more duration than lift, but N/A engines need lift and velocity.
Just my .02, but its the "controller" of your engine so do some research and make sure you know the cam profile will cause a powerband that matches your HEads and intakes capabilities. Then you can also get into the Converter and geearing, but since the topic was if you should replace your cam or not... well it depends on what you want to do. If you get the AFR heads and a super ram you will need a cam that function up to about 6500 RPM to make full use of the Superam.
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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555
Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!
Just my .02, but its the "controller" of your engine so do some research and make sure you know the cam profile will cause a powerband that matches your HEads and intakes capabilities. Then you can also get into the Converter and geearing, but since the topic was if you should replace your cam or not... well it depends on what you want to do. If you get the AFR heads and a super ram you will need a cam that function up to about 6500 RPM to make full use of the Superam.
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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555
Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Odd... it works great in my 305.</font>
I know someone who used a split duration cam with similiar numbers to the 2032 duration , and with a ton of boost through it made over 700fwhp. Not so going N/A
You will need a bigger cam on a N/A setup. Personally I think the 2032 should only be used on a mild setup N/A.
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I agree with Kevin. The 2032 is a mild cam. That's what I'm running with Crane Gold 1.52s.
IMO it is the lack of lift that especially hurts it. Like Willie said, it is a great cam for a 305. I put 50k miles on it with a set of TFs on my ol' LB9 before installing it in my ZZ4 shortblock.
FWIW, I've put about another 25k with my current setup. On a less than stellar dyno run (old plugs and a less than optimized PROM) it pulled 270 rwhp @ 4800 and 350 rwtq at 3200rpm.
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Mike
'90 IROC-Z , 5-speed, ZZ4, G1 Trick Flows
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IMO it is the lack of lift that especially hurts it. Like Willie said, it is a great cam for a 305. I put 50k miles on it with a set of TFs on my ol' LB9 before installing it in my ZZ4 shortblock.
FWIW, I've put about another 25k with my current setup. On a less than stellar dyno run (old plugs and a less than optimized PROM) it pulled 270 rwhp @ 4800 and 350 rwtq at 3200rpm.
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Mike
'90 IROC-Z , 5-speed, ZZ4, G1 Trick Flows
Moderator SEThirdgen
I too have a crane 2032 on my 383 vette! I feel the cam is pretty good, it is the cam that has the best idle without going lumpy (decent idle) and yet is computer compatible. I talked to many people, including crane, ed wright who burned my chip for my 165 ecm. They all prefered the cam and told me not to go any bigger with my gold 1.5 crane RR for street use. So there it is, what is the definition of mild? For street use it seems to be wild, for track maybe mild. Check out the lift and the duration on the cam and compare to lpe, they aren't very far apart. Crane is able to get a bigger cam to you too, they have them as well, but advised against it. So here I was calling them saying I would gladly purchase a better cam than the 2032 if he could give me the right arguement, the tech guy felt it was wiser to stick to 2032. Just my experience. Now if any of you can tell me what the actual gain and PAIN would be changing to lpe/accel over my 2032 I would like to hear it.
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