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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 02:06 PM
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MAF and MAP?

The new Chevy High Performance has an article about swapping a TPI unit onto an older carbed engine. In the article, they state that MAF cars have a MAP sensor too...what is the deal with this?

I have an 88 GTA with the original MAF system on it and, after doing a complete engine swap, never saw a MAP sensor...


WTF? Am I supposed to have a MAP sensor as well as a MAF?

Thanks for any help here...

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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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No, you are not supposed to have a MAP.

They may be mixed up with the newer F-bodies, I think the 4th gens have MAP and MAF...or is it some turbo engines?

Anyways, not yours
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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 05:36 PM
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I haven't read the article, but if that is indeed what they are saying (TPI cars came with MAF and MAP), then I would say they have their facts mixed up.

TPI cars came with MAF "OR" MAP, not both as Mike said. The later OBDI LT1s (PCM# 8051) had BOTH as Mike said. However, no one has gotten the 8051 PCM to work with an "non-Opti Spark/regular HEI" distributor (yet). Too bad, that would be a nice alternative to the ECMs used by either MAF or MAP.
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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 06:06 PM
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I read the article, and they also talked about the lt1. I think that they probably meant to say that the lt1 has both but they did say that the maf tpi's had both.

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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 09:03 AM
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When I read through the article, I thought it was only a TPI swap. After all, they had more than one picture of a TPI unit and I thought the article was ONLY TPI related.

Hence, my confusion. Of course, it wouldn't be the 1st time they fxxxed up on their facts. Geez, doesn't someone over there own a TPI car? They can't just be either carb or LS1, right?

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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 09:46 AM
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 09:48 AM
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Umm...OK....I am going to guess that the last post was in response to another thread...

Anyone else on the CHP article?

Thanks.

Adam
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 04:20 PM
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Hey Adam, you gonna make it to one of our club meetings one of these days?

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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 01:40 AM
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This isnt the first, nor the last time, CHP has gotten its facts wrong. In fact its the 6th month in a row I've noticed errors. You'd think a Chevy magazine would get their facts about Chevy's correct, but I guess not.

85-89 TPI cars have a MAF only. 90-93 speed density cars have a MAP only. 94+ cars have both a MAF and a MAP. They use the MAF for their primary fuel calculations and the MAP is a backup.


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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 07:57 AM
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To Matt: I would love to, but between moving into a house out in Rockford and work has been nuts...I have had no time...In fact, my GTA hasn't moved in 3 months ...just in time to move it into storage for the winter. Sigh. I need to come to a meeting, but probably not until after the 1st of the year...I also need to pay my dues...Just add it to the list

Thread Content: Thanks Kevin for clearing that up. Really, I like CHP, but their only real accurate info comes when they do engine buildups and use a carb. Almost like Car Craft, except CC doesn't seem to Fxxx up their EFI facts...as often
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 08:06 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 88TPI406GTA:
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What would you expect when you have English majors trying to write about something they don't know.
Between the tech *experts* and the way they accept advertisers promotional freebies, any close to the truth is mostly accidental.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 11:06 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Grumpy:
What would you expect when you have English majors trying to write about something they don't know.
Between the tech *experts* and the way they accept advertisers promotional freebies, any close to the truth is mostly accidental.
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Hehe... too true.....

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