TPI Tuned Port Injection discussion and questions. LB9 and L98 tech, porting, tuning, and bolt-on aftermarket products.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cts Replaced, still reads false!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-26-2011, 12:20 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
zz's z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: rockville, md
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 Iroc Z
Engine: 383 Mini ram
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: borg warner 9 bolt
Cts Replaced, still reads false!

Alrighty, so my car has recentely been running like crap, so i decided to see what was up.

I noticed when plugged into Tunerpro that my car constantly read 240.55 deg. farenheit.

My mechanical gauge says the car is still cold, it was.

So i replaced the Coolant temp sensor and its still reading 240.55.

No fluctuation whatsoever.

Any ideas!?
Old 09-26-2011, 01:00 PM
  #2  
Moderator/TGO Supporter

iTrader: (5)
 
AaronIROCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Tomball Texas
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 2 Posts
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

Wiring is shorted out somewhere
Old 09-26-2011, 06:43 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member

 
Damon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

There are two coolant temp sensors. One runs the gague on the dash (single wire sensor in the driver's side cylinder head between #1 & #3 spark plugs) and one that runs the ECM (2 wire jobbie on the front of the intake manifond, pointing forward, I believe). Lots of people have replaced the wrong one over the years.
Old 09-26-2011, 07:15 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
zz's z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: rockville, md
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 Iroc Z
Engine: 383 Mini ram
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: borg warner 9 bolt
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

Ive replaced the one with the yellow/black wires on the front of the intake manifold. Im now tracing the wires and i have continuity from the plug to the ecm.

I have no idea what to do. ...
Old 09-26-2011, 09:56 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
zz's z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: rockville, md
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 Iroc Z
Engine: 383 Mini ram
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: borg warner 9 bolt
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

I just read that this is a symptom of a bad ECM.

It stays pegged at 240.55

Anyone heard of this?

Also, my car picks and chooses how it wants to run.
Old 09-27-2011, 01:18 PM
  #6  
Moderator/TGO Supporter

iTrader: (5)
 
AaronIROCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Tomball Texas
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 2 Posts
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

Also double check your grounds as well, they are located on the back side of the head, on mine it was the passenger side.
Old 09-27-2011, 01:48 PM
  #7  
naf
Supreme Member

iTrader: (7)
 
naf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 5,291
Likes: 0
Received 58 Likes on 52 Posts
Car: 1987 SC/1985 TA
Engine: 350/vortec/fitech
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9-bolt
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

A pegged high reading is usually the leads shorting together. The connector itself will sometimes go bad. Inspect it carefully. You can also go back to the ECM plug and check for continuity between the leads at the connector.

Intermittent behavior is also a symptom of a wiring open/short.
Old 11-08-2011, 04:06 PM
  #8  
Sponsor

iTrader: (92)
 
Tuned Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mile High Country !!!
Posts: 15,420
Received 658 Likes on 582 Posts
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

are you using a $32b definition ?
Old 11-08-2011, 04:10 PM
  #9  
Sponsor

iTrader: (92)
 
Tuned Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mile High Country !!!
Posts: 15,420
Received 658 Likes on 582 Posts
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

you might want to try winaldl for a comparison to see if the reeding is acurate that the ecm is giving, high resistance on this circuit would case a hight ect.

http://winaldl.joby.se/
Old 11-09-2011, 02:18 AM
  #10  
Supreme Member

 
rgarcia63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,133
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 88' IROCZ
Engine: 388 TPI Motown 350 Race block
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.77
Re: Cts Replaced, still reads false!

I know you didn't say the check engine light was on, but here's the info on the code for high temp (low resistance.)
Code 14; 284° reported for more than 20 seconds.
Typical causes for this code include:

1) Severe engine overheating
2) Defective Coolant Temperature Sensor (resistance too low)
3) Short circuit in CTS-ECM harness
4) Defective ECM

Throw the sensor in the freezer let it freeze to 0°, the resistance should be around 25k ohms, let it warm up to room temp then put it in boiling water, water boils at 212°, resistance should be around 185°.
If the sensor, and wiring/connections are good then you might have a bad ECM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
specialized
TPI
27
06-18-2022 09:26 AM
okfoz
History / Originality
195
03-09-2017 02:35 PM
gta90
TPI
40
09-15-2015 04:00 PM
SpaniardV6
Brakes
19
09-07-2015 03:04 AM
mizz0313
Transmissions and Drivetrain
3
08-12-2015 06:45 AM



Quick Reply: Cts Replaced, still reads false!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:32 AM.