whats up guys, heres my problem-its whenever i shut off my car, get out, i always smell gas by my gas tank towards the rear drivers side wheel. i checked previous posts, but none where in the location i'm describing!
well i'm open to any comments or ideas!!!
thanks

On my 86 T/A that would be about where the fuel filter is. Don't know about your model but if it's in app. the same location it might be leaking from an incorrect install or something.

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There was a recall for that, i believe for 91-92. the fillerneck develops cracks where it joins to the tank.

wuter, i think you may be right- thats where the smell seems to be the strongest-what would you suggest??? take it to a dealer??? $$$$$$$$!!!!!
thanks

Because there was a recall i understand they will fix it free.
Campaign No: 94V077000 for all 1991 and 1992 Camaros and Firebirds.

thanks a lot for your help

Fyi here is all the 1991 firebird recall info(haha it is the same as 91 camaros):


Recall notices for 1991, pontiac firebird
NHTSA Campaign Number : 91V031000
Year : 1991
Vehicle Make : PONTIAC
Vehicle Model : FIREBIRD
Summary :
POOR BOND ADHESION BETWEEN THE WINDSHIELD GLASS AND THE MOUNTING, WHICH COULD
ALLOW THE WINDSHIELD TO SEPARATE FROM THE VEHICLE DURING A COLLISION. THIS FAILS
TO CONFORM WITH FMVSS 212.

IF WINDSHIELD SEPARATION OCCURS IN A COLLISION, ANUNBELTED OCCUPANT COULD BE
EJECTED FROM THE VEHICLE, AND PERSONAL INJURY COULDOCCUR.

REMOVE ALL SEALER FROM WINDSHIELD AND MOUNTING; APPLY NEW BONDING AND SEALANT
MATERIAL, AND REINSTALL WINDSHIELD.

SYSTEM: WINDSHIELD MOUNTING; FMVSS 212.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS.




NHTSA Campaign Number : 91V067000
Year : 1991
Vehicle Make : PONTIAC
Vehicle Model : FIREBIRD
Summary :
THE METAL LATCHPLATES MAY NOT ENGAGE THE BUCKLE ASSEMBLIES, CAUSING A "NO
LATCH" CONDITION. MOVEMENT OF THE SEAT OCCUPANT IN THIS CONDITION COULD CAUSE
LATCHPLATE RELEASE FROM THE BUCKLE.

UNBELTED OR INCORRECTLY BELTED SEAT OCCUPANTS ARESUBJECTED TO INCREASED RISK OF
INJURY IN THE EVENT OF SUDDEN STOP OR ACCIDENT.

REPLACE THE RETRACTOR ASSEMBLY FOR THE SAFETY BELT (FRONT AND REAR IN COUPES AND
FRONT ONLY IN CONVERTIBLES).

SYSTEM: SAFETY BELT ASSEMBLY; FMVSS 209.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS; COUPES AND CONVERTIBLES.




NHTSA Campaign Number : 94V077000
Year : 1991
Vehicle Make : PONTIAC
Vehicle Model : FIREBIRD
Summary :
THE FUEL FILLER NECK SOLDER JOINT CAN DEVELOP CRACKS OR PIN HOLE LEAKS, WHICH
DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FMVSS NO. 301, "FUEL SYSTEM INTEGRITY." THE CRACKS AND
HOLES CAN ALLOW FUEL VAPOR AND FUEL LEAKAGE.

CONSEQUENCE OF NON-COMPLIANCE: GASOLINE VAPORS AND FUEL LEAKS CAN RESULT IN A
FIRE IF EXPOSED TO A SOURCE OF IGNITION.

DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE FUEL TANK ASSEMBLY AND REPLACE THOSE WHICH EXHIBIT THE
CRACKS OR PIN HOLE LEAKS.

SYSTEM: FUEL; FUEL TANK ASSEMBLY; PIPE; FILLER; NECK; FMVSS 301.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES.

NOTE: IF YOUR VEHICLE IS PRESENTED TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON
SERVICE DATE AND THE REMEDY IS NOT PROVIDED WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME
OR THE REMEDY DOES NOT CORRECT THE NONCOMPLIANCE, PLEASE CONTACT CHEVROLET
AT1-800-222-1020 OR PONTIAC AT 1-800-762-2737. ALSO, CONTACT THE NATIONAL
HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-800-424-9393.

thanks a lot bro, i think i'm gonna print that out and show my dealer if he shows any signs of

everyone, thanks 4 the info. i'll probably go to the dealer sat. and keep u posted on what happens!
bye

ok . . . heres an update guys, i took the car to the dealer this morning, and they inspected the car . . . turns out that they will be replacing the FUEL TANK AND LINES, and FUEL FILTER for guess how much . . . . .FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!:hail:
this is great
there ordering the parts this week, and i'm gonna have it done one day next week!
once again, thanks guys!

***for anyone else that has my make and model, call the 1800 # for pontiac (or chevy), that 91bluemetalicRS provided me w/. to get your car fixed also***

Sweeeeeeet, glad to hear they're going to fix your car for free!!!!



If anyone else needs info on a recall for any vehicle let me know. I work for one of the biggest auto insurance companies and all this information is readily available just let me know.

BTW, I still laugh at the windsheild recall for all 91 camaro and firebirds. Doesn't anyone who gets ejected from any vehicle in a collision get injured, does it really matter if the bond adhesion is good or not? I guess you still go flying through the windshield one way or another.

Anyway off my soap box glad to hear your car is getting rid of the gas smell.

Dood!!! My 1988 has done the same thing!!! Is there a recall for my car!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please help me out here, because this would be a bonus for me!!

My problem is the same, the filler neck had broken free from the tank and is loose enough to let fumes and really small amounts of gass through, but not enough to leave puddles.

if anyone wants, e-mail me with their response nblanchard@cogeco.ca

Yep, mine does the same thing. If I fill my tank, it will leak a little bit of gas till its at 3/4 full or so. You can see the road grime on the tank where it leaks. Id also like to do the seat belt recall at the same time. You say just call 1-800-222-1020?? Thanks in advance.

nblanchard -

Here ya go doesn't mention anything about the gas tank but here is the info:

Oh yea Randy92z check with your local dealer first if they give you any crap or try to bs you then you can call the 800 #. All dealerships should know about the recalls and more than likely will fix your car without any hassles.


NHTSA Campaign Number : 90V105000
Year : 1988
Vehicle Make : PONTIAC
Vehicle Model : FIREBIRD
Summary :
PLASTIC COMPONENTS OF SEAT BELT BUCKLE ASSEMBLIES DO NOT CONTAIN AN ULTRA
VIOLET STABILIZER, AND EXPOSURE TO DIRECT SUNLIGHT AND ELEVATED INTERIOR
TEMPERATURES COULD WEAKEN THE PLASTIC COMPONENTS.

THIS COULD RESULT IN BREAKAGE OF PLASTIC COMPONENTS WHICHCOULD PREVENT BUCKLE
FROM LATCHING AND PROTECTING OCCUPANT IN A SUDDEN STOP ORACCIDENT.

REPLACE OR REPAIR SEAT BELT BUCKLE.

SYSTEM: SEAT BELT BUCKLE.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS.




NHTSA Campaign Number : 90V115000
Year : 1988
Vehicle Make : PONTIAC
Vehicle Model : FIREBIRD
Summary :
FUEL FEED HOSES MAY PULL OUT OF THE CRIMPED COUPLING AT THE ENGINE END OF THE
HOSE ASSEMBLY.

IF THIS COUPLING SEPERATED, ALLOWING GASOLINE TO LEAK,AND AN IGNITION SOURCE IS
PRESENT, AN ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRE COULD OCCUR.

INSTALL A REDESIGNED FUEL FEED HOSE.

SYSTEM: FUEL FEED HOSES.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS WITH 2.8L V6 ENGINES

Do you think I can do anything so they can maybe pay labour or parts or something... since they recognized the problem in 1991 and 1992? Or do you think they changed the design in 1991?

I took my car to a dealer when I bought it and asked about any factory recalls. They looked it up on the computer *using the vin* and told me I didn't have any recalls...even gave me a printout saying where my car was made and sold, who bought it originally, and how many miles were on it when I it was new. NO RECALLS. What's the deal? Did someone else already take care of them? My seatbelts are falling apart and badly sun-damaged. I also smell gas around the tank slightly. Is there any recalls out for mine?

1987 Trans Am GTA L98

I have the same problem when my tank is filled over 1/2
How would I go upon having my car checked? Would I just go to the dealership service department and tell them that I think I have a leak in the fuel neck and it should be covered under the recall. and If they give me crap just have that information?

that gas tank is a real **** off, because the under carriage of my car is mint, the gas tank has NO rust what so ever. I may be able to swindel my way into a cheaper install.. i dunno... i've been told its repairable... just have to solder it back on

3.1 your recall campaign # is 90V105000. (Only recall for your year is seat belt buckle assembly didn't contain ultraviolet stabilizer. Heat and sunlight causes the plastic to break up over time) the report the dealership ran was probably a car fax report or something similar that may have not had all the info attached or the recall was not in force at that time. However, sometimes the recalls are vin sensitive, one of the digits does identify the plant the vehicle was produced at. For example a detroit michigan plant may have received a bad batch of seat belt buckles vs a Troy Michigan plant that received a good batch kinda thing. Just an example but definately check with your local dealership and give them the campaign number. They will probably be able to find out if this part was ever repaired on your vehicle but still worth checking.

chris your campaign # is 94V077000 yep call the dealership first (might save you a trip down there if it has been repaired before) then of course they will inspect and repair or replace.

nblanchard I think the tanks are the same but no recall on your year for gas tanks. Good luck with the repair.

Randy92z your recall # is 94V077000 for the fuel tank and the only other recall is for the automatic transmission shift controll cable recall # 92V154000

if they are the same.. then why did they only get recalled for 1991 and 1992? I am going to check into this, if it is the same P/N... I am gonna try to get some kind of discount

Check it out and post your results I am interested now too.... Discounts are always cool even if the sh** hits the fan at the parts counter:hail:

I had the same fuel tank problem on my 89'. I didn't know about it until I had the fuel pump replaced and the mechanic told me about my tank and replaced it because, legally, he couldn't put it back in. I found out about the recall for 91 and 92 models, and it didn't cover my car. I called GM to try to get reimbursed with no luck. I imagine if I brought the car to the dealer before the tank was replaced and they saw it leaking, I might have been able to have them take care of it.

Yo guys, I made a post about this before, gas smell near the rear driver side wheel well!!! I got that too! Sometimes if I open my door it leaks inside, and smells in their too! ****, is there a recall on my car? What yas think I should do? Nothing will happen for the time being, like blow up or nothing right? Help, Thanks!

Doesn't look anything below 1991 has a recall for the gas tank, I personally think their should be!!!

finally, i found some people w/ the same prob. i have a 91 z28 tpi, and i have same fuel leak problem, i looked at it pretty good and it seems to be coming from the filler tube. i will print the recall out n get to a dealer soon. thanx for posting that recall, u really saved me if i can get it fixed for free!!!!!!!

I still don't understand, if earlier cars have the same problem as 1991 and 1992 gas tanks, why don't they recall the earlier ones as well. It is obvious that the problem goes back further then 1991, since a lot of guys are finding the same problem. And I know for sure thats my problem, because I can actually wiggle the filler tube up top where the fuel cap is.


Anyone know how I would debate this?

It is obvious that the problem exists on earlier cars (Like mine), but for whatever reason, GM is not legally obligated to repair those cars. It could be that by the time the problem was found, only cars back to a certain amount of years were required to be fixed. If you do have a car that was built before 91' and does have the tank problem, bring it to the dealer with all the 91' and 92' recall information and be persistant. If you don't get anywhere with them, call GM direct. I was not successful because I had it fixed first and then tried to get reimbursed, but if the dealer sees that it is actually leaking, then you'll have a much better shot.

hey, 91bluemetalicRS, i called my chevrolet dealer in town and they said there was no recall on 91 camaro fuel filler/gas leak, so i called up GM and told them what was go'n on and they said they couldn't find any recalls on it. so if u have the exact recall notice on a 91 camaro z28, please post it, i will print it out n bring it to the dealer, i don't wanna drive this car much more if it can blow up cuase of gas leak! i really need to get it fixed. if u have any pointers on how to get my car fixed, like call a certain # to call or something please help me out!

How Much did you pay did you get your's fixed? Where did you get it done?

Chevypower here is the recall info for 91 camaro. This information is being pulled from a recall database from my company so it should be very accurate since this information is regularly updated. Keep in mind the recall is based on a "camaro/firebird" the database doesn't specify if it z28, ta, rs, v6 or whatever but I would think that the recall is for all camaros/firebirds in 91. My tank never had any problems, and all the other recall things have been replaced on my vehicle before I bought it.

And yes chevaluva the tank could blow up if the gas fumes or gas itself comes in contact with a flame/spark. If GM states in a recall notice that your tank can blow up you can probally bet that it happened once or twice and thus now the recall.

I am still researching the earlier years with a few folks I work with that have gm hook ups so stay tuned hopefully I will hear something positive soon.

NHTSA Campaign Number : 91V031000
Year : 1991
Vehicle Make : CHEVROLET
Vehicle Model : CAMARO
Summary :
POOR BOND ADHESION BETWEEN THE WINDSHIELD GLASS AND THE MOUNTING, WHICH COULD
ALLOW THE WINDSHIELD TO SEPARATE FROM THE VEHICLE DURING A COLLISION. THIS FAILS
TO CONFORM WITH FMVSS 212.

IF WINDSHIELD SEPARATION OCCURS IN A COLLISION, ANUNBELTED OCCUPANT COULD BE
EJECTED FROM THE VEHICLE, AND PERSONAL INJURY COULDOCCUR.

REMOVE ALL SEALER FROM WINDSHIELD AND MOUNTING; APPLY NEW BONDING AND SEALANT
MATERIAL, AND REINSTALL WINDSHIELD.

SYSTEM: WINDSHIELD MOUNTING; FMVSS 212.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS.




NHTSA Campaign Number : 91V067000
Year : 1991
Vehicle Make : CHEVROLET
Vehicle Model : CAMARO
Summary :
THE METAL LATCHPLATES MAY NOT ENGAGE THE BUCKLE ASSEMBLIES, CAUSING A "NO
LATCH" CONDITION. MOVEMENT OF THE SEAT OCCUPANT IN THIS CONDITION COULD CAUSE
LATCHPLATE RELEASE FROM THE BUCKLE.

UNBELTED OR INCORRECTLY BELTED SEAT OCCUPANTS ARESUBJECTED TO INCREASED RISK OF
INJURY IN THE EVENT OF SUDDEN STOP OR ACCIDENT.

REPLACE THE RETRACTOR ASSEMBLY FOR THE SAFETY BELT (FRONT AND REAR IN COUPES AND
FRONT ONLY IN CONVERTIBLES).

SYSTEM: SAFETY BELT ASSEMBLY; FMVSS 209.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS; COUPES AND CONVERTIBLES.




NHTSA Campaign Number : 91V074000
Year : 1991
Vehicle Make : CHEVROLET
Vehicle Model : CAMARO
Summary :
THE FRONT SEAT UPPER HINGE COVER SCREWS ARE TOO LONG, AND INTERFERE WITH THE
SEAT BACK INERTIA LOCK. THIS PREVENTS THE SEAT BACK FROM LOCKING PROPERLY.

IN THE EVENT OF A SUDDEN STOP OR VEHICLE IMPACT, ANUNLOCKED SEAT BACK WOULD
INCREASE THE RISK OF INJURY TO THE SEAT OCCUPANT.

REPLACE SCREWS SECURING UPPER HINGE TRIM COVER WITH CORRECT LENGTH SCREWS.

SYSTEM: FRONT BUCKET SEAT LATCH; FMVSS 207.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS.




NHTSA Campaign Number : 94V077000
Year : 1991
Vehicle Make : CHEVROLET
Vehicle Model : CAMARO
Summary :
THE FUEL FILLER NECK SOLDER JOINT CAN DEVELOP CRACKS OR PIN HOLE LEAKS, WHICH
DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FMVSS NO. 301, "FUEL SYSTEM INTEGRITY." THE CRACKS AND
HOLES CAN ALLOW FUEL VAPOR AND FUEL LEAKAGE.

CONSEQUENCE OF NON-COMPLIANCE: GASOLINE VAPORS AND FUEL LEAKS CAN RESULT IN A
FIRE IF EXPOSED TO A SOURCE OF IGNITION.

DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE FUEL TANK ASSEMBLY AND REPLACE THOSE WHICH EXHIBIT THE
CRACKS OR PIN HOLE LEAKS.

SYSTEM: FUEL; FUEL TANK ASSEMBLY; PIPE; FILLER; NECK; FMVSS 301.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES.

NOTE: IF YOUR VEHICLE IS PRESENTED TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON
SERVICE DATE AND THE REMEDY IS NOT PROVIDED WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME
OR THE REMEDY DOES NOT CORRECT THE NONCOMPLIANCE, PLEASE CONTACT CHEVROLET
AT1-800-222-1020 OR PONTIAC AT 1-800-762-2737. ALSO, CONTACT THE NATIONAL
HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-800-424-9393.

Nblanchard,
The car was originally in the shop for a bad fuel pump and the mechanic discovered the leaky tank. The total bill was $550 for the labor, cutting the exhaust off and welding it back on, the pump and the tank. I think the tank was about $150, and about 4 hours labor. I had it done at a local garage that I take the car to when either I don't have time, or don't want to work on it. Any competant garage that does general repairs should be able to take car of it.

hmmmm.. i was quoted 200 - 300 bucks for the repair and labour. A new tank from GM is rediculous price, 700bux canadian

There is also another cause for the gas smell that is completely unrelated to a faulty/leaking gas tank. There is a fuel tank venting valve that also functions as a high pressure relief located next to the driver rear wheel well. When you turn your vehicle off, intank fuel pressures can rise causing some of the gasses to vent. If the valve has weakend over time, it may vent at a much lower pressure than it is supposed to.

I know mine is the filler tube, because the dang thing is loose, and you can see the reminence of fuel around it.

ok so heres what happened, they checked her, and found a leak by where the fillerneck meets the gastank-something like that, but i know for sure they replaced the fillerneck free, and i think i heard him say they replaced my gastank as well!
so i'm happy now
and once again . . .91bluemetalicRS, thanks man!