Who makes the best third gen rear, I mean a bolt on rear. I heard moser is really nice, but so is strange. Well do you guys think.

 

currie, strange, moser are all about the same. i'd buy moser mostley because i've talked with all the makers and moser seemed to be the "nicest" and most willing to talk and help me, plus they're closest to me so i could save on shipping if i wanted.

 

I rode in a guys car that had a Moser 12bolt it came complete. The only bad thing about it was the rearend made way to much noise. The gear whine was terriable. He had everything taken apart and reinstalled and the thing still made to much noise. I don't know if something was wrong with the housing or they are all this loud. Maybe someone else can comment on this.

 

if it had richmonds in it they'd make more noise than most people are use to

 

It had whatever Moser puts in them with I am sure is Richmond. Why do they make more noise then others?

 

www.quickperformance.com don't know where you live, but I'm instate so a complete Ford 9" with HD posi, Strange 31 spline axles, ring & pinion of choice, Yoke that fits Chevy driveshaft, $1600.00-yes direct bolt in. E-mail the guy for more info, very customer oriented.

 

Racing gears whine (sometimes really loud) and they are supposed to there isnt anything wrong with them....there are several reasons, but the biggest is the alloy the gears are made of. aftermarket gears are a softer material so they can better absorb a hit from a hard launch than OEM gears can. Also, it can have to do with how the gears are cut and finished or how they are setup.....but peformance gears and rears almost always whine......its just an unfortunate by-product of the tougher rear....they serll reduced gear whine peformance gear sets, but its not really worth it.

i like moser alot, strange pisses me off because my c-clip eliminators leak like a **** and eat bearings like a 2 dollar hooker at a roman orgy

 

I have a Moser 12 bolt and yes it whines.Its the price you pay for strength. I got used to it though.

And for the c-clip eliminators, of course their gunna leak if you put too much oil. I have c-clip eliminators and mine dont leak. Jus use a lil' oil and fill it up on the side and not on the T/A cover.

 

nothing to do with too much oil chief....its got to do with blown seals and wrecked bearings....and if you have a moser 12 bolt why does it have c-clip elminators? i thought those came with regular bolt in axles.

 

I didnt really give it too much thought on the purchase. Moser had an option with no c-clips.. so I was like it costs more so it must be better. So I went with that option of no c-clips. I also plan on some high hp/tq within the next year. You can get them with or without c-clips.

 

A moser rear should NOT have c-clip eliminators. Yes, they make them, but it is my understanding that their assemblies employ a positive axle retention similar to the Ford rear where the axle has a plate (for lack of better words) that is packed between bearings and secured by an endcap with bolts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you should not have eliminators if you have a complete moser rear.

 

So its a bad thing then? Mine seems to be working fine. And I know somewhere in the rule book where it says if you break into 10.XX you need c-clip eliminators which i already have. So it looks like its a good thing in my part.

 

thats what i was talking about....if you run a certain time i think there may be a rule that requires c-clip eliminators...but that only applies if its an axle thats equipped with c-clips.

a c-clip eliminator is really just a band-aid solution to make a c-clip axle housing into a bolt-in axle retention hosing like a ford 9 or a dana 60. I know you can order complete assemblies from strange and moser that do not have c-clips or eliminators...they are a true bolt-in axle retention hosing.

 

So are there any bolt up rearends that dont make alot of sound. I am going to be swapping a monster of a engine in w/ a t-56 so I want a strong rear end, but I dont want my car to sound like a train. So with that in mind, what's out there???

 

dude forget it.....if you want tough, especially with a really strong motor you need tough....your gonna get whine EOFS (end of f*ckin story)

just gotta live with it....unless your not gonna race it then you dont need the really tough gears......you can order a bolt in rear end any way you want it...but i wouldnt get quiet gears over strong ones.....the whine isnt that loud anyways....they should only make noise at speed, and if you have loud exhaust or a stereo you'll never hear it anyways.

you cant hear it outside the car anyways for the most part

 

Ok, from what people were saying I though it was a overwheling sound or something.

 

http://www.moserengineering.com/mose...s.asp?CatID=28

 

nah....i mean when your on the highway goin 80 it can be pretty loud....but if your listening to tunes or something your not gonna hear it. you get used to it anyways

 

Man, if anybody is thinking about installing a Ford 9", COMPLETE, bolt in rearend in their car instead of a 12 bolt, and they think that the Moser prices are okay, PLEASE send me a pm e-mail, damn I can make a killin. I'll even pick up the shipping how's that? If anybody interested e-mail me, I'll take your specs you want, get a price, need your zip for shipping purposes though cause it'll have to be truck freight, and I'll get back with you, I see a chance to make some $$$ please resond.

 

mosier costly???
I did my swap for under a grand and used the mosier package with a junkyard center chunk.

If anyone has beat that for a direct bolt in tell me, I kick myself.

 

I was looking at their "complete package with posi" that company is out of their frickin gord, try an tell me they're not sellin ya about $600 worth of name. Granted 9"er's and 12 bolts are 2 different rear-ends both both being strong with the proper guts, I just like the ease of swapping gears in the 9", makes options in the future that much easier and cheaper. I am just amazed that anyone in their right mind would pay that much from Moser for a rear end, that's just plain fraud, and I want a peice of the pie. They say suckers are everywhere, ya just have to know where to look.

 

mosier is selling their product because they have it available, same as for rearend dealers.
If somebody advertises a cheaper 9" they'll be the hot selling item.

I've priced around for two months before I could find a whole rear end for under a grand.
I could care less who's name is it.
My friends couldn't cut me a rearend housing, cut and respline axles, and weld on the connentions for the torque arm, lower control arms, and springs at that price. + I have decent 33 spline axels and a solid center section.

for another $150 I'll replace that spool with a posi.

Now for those who pay over a couple of grand, I don't think they're doing they're homework. But I imagine I've spent money in worse places.

 

I am looking at moser because they are well known, have been around for a while and people say they are good. One thing I AM NOT LOOKING to do is put some hillbillys used rear end into my Camaro. I want something new that is not rebuilt, remanufactored, or re-anything for that matter. Any who I have always believed that the sweetnes of saving money never lasts as long as the bitterness of poor quality, (you get what you pay for).

 

I'm glad somepeople can afford to buy nothing but the best... :hail:

I take pride in busting people's @ss like yours.

 

hes right....you get you pay for....cause not only is the rear end completely new not rebuilt....you get your choice of

31-33 spline axles, choice of diff from open to locker to posi, to powertrax to spool, choice of gears, choice of brakes etc.

you can get whatever combo you wish to order.....but it is expensive....

 

okay so obviously nobody checked out the URL in my above post-the one towards the begining of this thread-so here it is again www.quickperformance.com check it out, all the man does is rear ends for racing/street rodding applications. He's not a "hillbilly" and if you've ever been to his shop and seen the stuff he does, you'd leave very impressed to say the least. Yes the "housing" will be used, do u really think Moser has a casting machine that makes their own housings, duh, but everything else in the 9" is brand new if that's what you want. Just check out the site.

 

thats cool....but actually there are companies that provide brand new ford 9" housings not recycled ones.

currie now makes their own brand new housings