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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Pro 5.0 Shifter...any good?

I was looking for some comments and opinions on the pro 5.0 shifter for the T56. Also does it have a shorter throw? or is it just more sturdy and solid? thanks.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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mine had a little shorter throw. i really wasn't that impressed. it has adjustments, but i have never played with them.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by heavy_chevy29
mine had a little shorter throw. i really wasn't that impressed. it has adjustments, but i have never played with them.
You need to adjust them to prevent over travel. That is what they are there for. You can bend the shift forks in your tranny if you shift really hard and do not have the stops properly set. The Pro 5.0 in my T5 is incredible and a night and day difference over stock. I cannot wait unitl I can get one for my T56 in my 95. The stock ones are just junk with way to much play and over travel in them. Check out the other thread in this forum. There is a lot of discussion there and this question pops up a lot.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Definately check out the other thread as mentioned. The Pro 5.0 is the best there is. I ran one on my Mustang, and wouldn't even have thought of running a different shifter on my T56 in my Camaro.

You definately have to adjust the stops properly too. Without doing that you risk seriously damaging your trans while banging it through the gears.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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I have a few comments here that you may find useful:


https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=217697
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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You definately have to adjust the stops properly too. Without doing that you risk seriously damaging your trans while banging it through the gears.
Will you please quit posting misinformation? The stops are in the transmission itself.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Wrong. The shifter has two stop bolts on the tower ring that allow you to keep the trans from overshifting. Yes, the T56 has internal stops that are supposed to prevent this, but even these can be broken if you slam into them enough. The Pro 5.0 has the stop bolts for a reason. Additioanlly, they keep your throw as short as possible.

I'm running the Pro 5.0 on the T56 in my car. I personally rebuilt and blueprinted the trans myself, so I might know a thing or two about it.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
Wrong. The shifter has two stop bolts on the tower ring that allow you to keep the trans from overshifting.
Thank you for telling me about the two stop bolts. I'd have never noticed them otherwise. I only have one eye and I wear limo tint over my glasses that are taped.


Yes, the T56 has internal stops that are supposed to prevent this, but even these can be broken if you slam into them enough.
Did you bend several super-thick aluminum forks too? You seem to like repeating things that others spread without facts behind them.


The Pro 5.0 has the stop bolts for a reason. Additionally, they keep your throw as short as possible.
The shorter they go, the more likely you are not to fully engage the synchro. But hey, at least your thoughts sound good on paper, right?


I'm running the Pro 5.0 on the T56 in my car. I personally rebuilt and blueprinted the trans myself, so I might know a thing or two about it.
You certainly know how to write a resume, but you're quite thin on theory. You should work in advertising.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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I have the Pro 5.0 on my T-56 and love it.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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I am pretty sure that the stops are there for a reason. The manufactuer of the Pro 5.0 would not just put them in there for kicks and giggles. I am sure there is some serious validity for them being there. It does cost them to make those holes and put bolts in there. If they didn't think there would be a problem then they would not have put them there. My geuss is that since the stock shifter is so flimsy it will break before the stops in the tanny do. However it is my geuss that the Pro 5.0 is strong enough where the stops will fail before the shifter will. They are not just there for looks.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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Hey Shifty, glad to see someone post that isn't just interested in being sarcastic.

BTW, I have seen a lot of damaged shift forks in T5s over the years. Granted they aren't as tough as those used in the T56, but why bother even messing around with something that could damage the trans? Just adjust the bolts as the manufacturer intended. If you do this PROPERLY there is no chance that the synchros won't fully engage. The stock synchro assembly allows the slider to move farther than it needs to, before the internal stops halt it's propress. Anything beyond proper engagement is potentially damaging, which is why those stop bolts are incorporated into the Pro 5.0.

I guess reading everything I can get my hands on related to cars and having over 12 years of hands on experience building, rebuilding, and fabricating on cars and trucks makes me some kind of BS artist. Who would have known?
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
Hey Shifty, glad to see someone post that isn't just interested in being sarcastic.

BTW, I have seen a lot of damaged shift forks in T5s over the years. Granted they aren't as tough as those used in the T56, but why bother even messing around with something that could damage the trans? Just adjust the bolts as the manufacturer intended. If you do this PROPERLY there is no chance that the synchros won't fully engage. The stock synchro assembly allows the slider to move farther than it needs to, before the internal stops halt it's propress. Anything beyond proper engagement is potentially damaging, which is why those stop bolts are incorporated into the Pro 5.0.

I guess reading everything I can get my hands on related to cars and having over 12 years of hands on experience building, rebuilding, and fabricating on cars and trucks makes me some kind of BS artist. Who would have known?
Well I have never rebuild a manual tranny but I have a good general idea of how everything works. I just look at the shifter from a design point of view. I am an enginNERD so that is what I do. It is extra cost to the manufacturer to put those stops there and write up the literature for them. They obviously felt that if their shifter didn't have this then people would damage their tranny's and never buy a Pro 5.0 ever again. I bet they they even tested it as such and actually damaged a tranny without the stops and said "boy how can we prevent this, I know stops!"
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Just get a Pro 5.0, set the stops correctly, and you won't have any problems. I'm not going to argue the reliability standpoint, but they make a world of difference in shift quality.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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i set the stops the way the directions said. can i set them so that the shift is shorter. i was worried about the trans not fully engaging. if i could set the through shorter that would be awsome.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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I set mine so that I could barely slide a piece of paper (like the instruction sheet) between the stop and the shifter...works perfectly, and has on every Pro 5.0 I have ever installed 9at least a dozen).
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Follow the instructions for the stop placement. Anything less may not allow the sliding sleeves to fully grip the engagement teeth on the gears. That would be bad.
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