Any of you watch Horse Power TV this weekend?
I did and was wondering if it was as easy as the show made it look to install one of these units from Powertrax?
I think i could do this mod myself for now. I am not ready to change gears yet though.

PowerTrax No Slip Traction System

Whatcha think?

 

Yes, its actually very easy to install but read carefully because its not that easy to take out.

 

Can you elaborate on what makes it so hard go get out?
Thx,
Chris

 

It kinda locks in place. The c-clips get held in with pressure from the springs pushing the hub assemblies togather. You actually drop the c-clips in like a quarter into a candy machine.
I dident mean its hard to remove persay 70% of the time if you need to remove its not a problem. I'm just not a patient person when it comes to disassembly. The instructions that come with these are very easy to understand and are written with common terms and plenty of pictures to aid installation.

 

Yes they work, and yes they are easy to install. They are also a bit of a pain to get back out. If you read the installation instructions you'll easily see why. Look at how you get the springs into the unit. Hard to do that in reverse.

 

Kewl. Sounds like a good mod to do when my DAMN jeep sells. Then i can play!! :rockon:

 

Easy as pie to put in, a bit finicky to get out. Even more finicky to put back in once you're all covered in gear oil but was made easy again with some greese to hold things in place. I love laying down to black strips now and they're not bad at all in the rain. You will have to get used to how the car drives though, hard to explain.

 

Hmmm, I have one in the 8.2" 10-bolt, it was a little difficult to install (couldn't get the spacing correct - must have been the grease they say to put on the shims). I later had 3.73's put in, the shop didn't want to fuss with the PT, so I took it back out - piece of cake. Went right back together afterwards, too.

If you aren't changing gears, it's a good way to get posi. I used the "Track" springs, because that car is mainly raced but driven to the track.

If you are changing gears, it costs about the same as a posi carrier, so you need to decide which you want. Only nit I have against Auburn & Eaton is they say to used petroleum-based gear lube - and I don't like being told to use petroleum-based gear lube.

Not to hijack the thread, but has anyone used a PowerTrax in a vehicle that is driven regularly on snow/ice? My '84 full-size tow-vehicle van could use extra traction in the winter.

 

Com'mon 5-7 yea know I do

Its actually an improvement in a (straight line) and (wide turns). Sharp turns are a little more dicy then an open diff but if the roads are covered with snow and ice, well only the california drivers make that mistake.

 

Wasn't sure how much you drove that vehicle in winter.

I have a factory posi in the Camaro, and ice can get interesting (but it is w/o posi, anyway). I didn't want to make the overall safety or manuverability of the tow vehicle worse just to gain a little advantage in certain mud/snow situations.

As for winter driving in Colorado, the natives and 4WD types seem to be the first in the ditch around here. The California transplants are too scared to leave home.

 

RWD, FWD, AWD, and 4WD are all equal when there is no traction to be had. You're just as likely to skid off the road in any type of car or truck under these conditions.

I think 4WD lulls people into a false sense of security and they go out banzai style to show everyone how bad@$$ they are. I passed a ton of 4WD SUVs and trucks in ditches this winter. I just dove along at a reasonable speed, yanked the e-brake when necessary, and had not a lick of difficulty in my bone stock WRX wagon.

My Camaro and other 2WD rides sit when there's snow. I can drive them in snow, but why take the risk when I've got an AWD car or a 4WD truck I can drive instead?

 

Isn't it great to see those 4wd guys come screaming past you when it's really crappy out only to pass them in the ditch on the cell phone callin for help further down the road, who says there is no justice :lala:

 

What's that about Cali drivers in snow and ice? I've driven in the snow and on ice... sure we don't normaly get the 3+ feet of snow on the ground here in town but I did just fine. Smart drivers do just fine but there's not a lot of them around in CA

After the superbowl I went home and there was black ice everywhere. No big problem, got sideways a couple times but at low speeds and kept going. Actually had fun driving home hehe

 

I suppose when I talk about "California drivers", I should note that I have been accused of being one since I lived in San Diego for 9 years before moving to CO. Since we arrived here in November that year, we had some "weather" before we got CO plates on our vehicles. There is no doubt in my mind that people acted differently when driving around our vehicles with CA plates than they did after we got the CO plates. Of course, I still drove past some of them in the ditch when I had the CA plates on...

I'm going to plan on getting a PowerTrax for the van. Pushing the trailer around in mud/snow when backing up can get sporty when only one wheel wants to turn.

 

Thats ok I was born in California family moved here when I was 3.
I try to drive the bird as much as possible just not too often since it is uninsured till may. Shop insurace will cover my butt slightly if somthing happened.
Around here almost all of the Cali natives drive like the roads are dry even with 3 feet of snow. I think the PT would work great in your van. The deepest snow Ive had the bird in was 6in even then the airdam was plowing snow for the city but traction was a non issue.