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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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t-56 with no hydraulic clutch

is it possible to get rid of the hydraulic clutch on a t 56 and have a manual clutch in the car . Manual clutches allow more feel than the hydraulic plus it would be easier to install without a hydraulic cylinder.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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it would be ALOT harder to install a mechanical linkage then just putting the hyd setup on the firewall... you would have to fab everything.

and while you do get a diffrent "feel" thru the pedal using a mechanical linkage, the hyd one does provide more then enough feedback.. and doesnt get effected by engine/trans movement or wear.

is it possible to come up with a mechanical linkage to push the fork forward when you push the pedal down? yes.

is it pratical, easy, or have any benifit? no.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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I'd have to agree.... for all those years I drove 4-speeds, and then for as long as I drove my 83 car before I finally couldn't stand it any more and put the hydraulics in, I cursed the extra friction from the mechanical system, watched the engine move around on the mounts, watched car bodies actually move back and forth on the frame mounts as the clutch was pushed, replaced pieces of linkage that bent or broke or fell out, dealt with adjusting clutches, etc. etc. etc. ..... I'll never go back to that crap if I can help it. Friction and binding isn't my idea of "feel". Direct, exact, hydraulic-pressure-transmitted force without added friction and miscellaneous uncertainty seems much better to me.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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hydraulic it is. i just wondered because my father picked on me for wanting to use it cause its hydraulic. Hes old school and has a 77 trans am with a 4 speed. he likes to push hard on the clutch i guess, especially when he had the zoom clutch .
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by nolanr0413
hydraulic it is. i just wondered because my father picked on me for wanting to use it cause its hydraulic. Hes old school and has a 77 trans am with a 4 speed. he likes to push hard on the clutch i guess, especially when he had the zoom clutch .
theres 3 kinds of people in our corner of the car world.


old school -- they tend to think alot of the newer stuff is gay.

new school -- they tend to think alot of the older stuff is primitive.


and real gearhead car guys -- they're the ones that take a unbias point of view and actually look at what the parts or system does, how it behaves and build the best thing they can.

just dont let him get to you... think and LEARN LEARN LEARN.. ask more then one person for opinions and the best way to do stuff...

once you have the knowlage and do your research, pick your choice and go with it... dont let people get to you with "thats stupid" or "you wont be as fast" remarks...
i get made fun off for all kinds of stuff on my car... sure, if i pull the stereo and AC out, it'll be faster and easier to work on... but IMO its better to whomp them and then turn on the AC and stereo then it is to whomp them harder and then have a loud ratteling hot car with a exhaust drone..
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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You could probably find a z-bar and clutch setup from an 82 fbody with a manual transmission, and make a linkage from there. I wouldnt do it though, it will make for a harder clutch pedal, and also leave alot less space for the drivers side header (like there's much to begin with )
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Ward
You could probably find a z-bar and clutch setup from an 82 fbody with a manual transmission, and make a linkage from there. I wouldnt do it though, it will make for a harder clutch pedal, and also leave alot less space for the drivers side header (like there's much to begin with )

wont work.

the T56 clutch works backwards.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 03:13 AM
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you can use mechanical if you get an aftermarket or have yours modified thru 5speedtransmissions.com.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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IMO, stiffer clutch=longer shift times=bad.
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