Tranny woes
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Car: 1984 Z-28
Engine: 350(bored 0.060)
Transmission: Probuilt TH700-r4 tranny with the w
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 7.5" posi 3.42
Tranny woes
I just had my Camaro's tranny rebuilt a week before I deployed.(TH700r4) I was told it is bulletproof. For some reason when I tried to crank my car, It wouldn't start. I recharged both of my batteries (yes I have a dual setup), checked my 200 amp alternator, and checked my almost new starter to find out they were good. Then, just off instinct, disconnected the driveshaft from the rear end, but left the other end in the tranny tailshaft. I was able to turn the rear end with ease. This started to p*$$ me off because when I pulled the drive shaft from the tailshaft, put the car in park and tried to crank the car, nothing happened. I found the tranny impossible to turn, even in the neutral position. I even tried turning the flywheel just to be sure. I deployed two days later, but could not find the guy to wring his neck in time. He told me the accumulator piston and springs were broken, but that WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WIH LOCKING THE TRANNY. The only thing I could think of is the clutch rings in the clutch drum aren't seated properly and is causing a$$ pain for me. I have rebuilt trannies before, but didn't have the time time to do this one. Any help is appreciated.
Last edited by Midnyte81; Jan 5, 2005 at 11:46 PM.
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From: Ga.
Car: 1984 Z-28
Engine: 350(bored 0.060)
Transmission: Probuilt TH700-r4 tranny with the w
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 7.5" posi 3.42
There has to be SOMEBODY out there that has seen or heard of this before. Please?:hail: :hail: :hail: I'm out in left field, especially if I can't pull the tranny myself. My wife is automotively competent, but she won't be able to work on this tranny. (Not enough experience) She can, however, take it to a REAL tranny shop to have it repaired. I just want her to go there with only a small list of things to check so she won't be charged an arm and leg for only "checking everything to make sure itruns ok only to be told the tranny is trashed"
It is almost impossible for the transmission to prevent the motor from turning over. Even if it is locked up the torque converter is not "directly" attached to the transmission, and still would spin. Does the flywheel turn at all?
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Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
So the starter cant crank the motor over at all? IOW, it basically jsut sits there, shorting out the batteries w/o doing anything?
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Car: 1984 Z-28
Engine: 350(bored 0.060)
Transmission: Probuilt TH700-r4 tranny with the w
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 7.5" posi 3.42
Its a high performance starter too. I even hear the starter whine. That damn flywheel just won't move. Now, I'm either thinking the drum is pressed that hard against the oil pump or the retaining clip in the back end of the tranny isn't there. ( i.e. reverse clutch location)
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Who put the transmission in?
I'm asking because I'm guessing the car hasn't started up or moved an inch since it was installed.
Sounds to me like when the converter was slid into the front pump, it didn't engage the pump "ears", and now it's all bound up.
You need to take the trans back out (or a shop dpes) and seat the converter into the pump properly. Hopefully it didn't destroy the pump completely. Although, if it's bound up so tight that the starter can't turn it, it probably did ruin the pump.
In any case, it's not going to run and drive to the shop, it'll have to be towed.
The transmission shop guy is right; what he did, isn't the problem. It's an installation issue, not something about building the trans itself, or putting whatever parts in it.
I'm asking because I'm guessing the car hasn't started up or moved an inch since it was installed.
Sounds to me like when the converter was slid into the front pump, it didn't engage the pump "ears", and now it's all bound up.
You need to take the trans back out (or a shop dpes) and seat the converter into the pump properly. Hopefully it didn't destroy the pump completely. Although, if it's bound up so tight that the starter can't turn it, it probably did ruin the pump.
In any case, it's not going to run and drive to the shop, it'll have to be towed.
The transmission shop guy is right; what he did, isn't the problem. It's an installation issue, not something about building the trans itself, or putting whatever parts in it.
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If the torque converter being mis-engaged is the problem, when you get teh trans out, remove the front pump and disassemble it and inspect for damage. Thats the only way to be sure that its still ok. Thats if you did the install, of course.
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Car: 1984 Z-28
Engine: 350(bored 0.060)
Transmission: Probuilt TH700-r4 tranny with the w
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 7.5" posi 3.42
I didn't do the install either. The guy took the tranny out in my yard, then brought it back to install.
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