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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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Shift Kit Works!!!

Well I finally made my shift kit work right and man is this awesome. I can always chirp secong gear on hard acceleration. I love it.
Any of you experience what i am?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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I am going to install my kit sometime w/in the next couple weeks. Hows it feel? what kind of engine mods if any do you have?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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It feels really good!!! Every shift is firm and crisp. I have cat back exhaust, hooker headers, open element, timing 6 degrees advanced, corvette servo, poly tranny mount, AC Delco Rapid fires spark plugs, Taylor spark plug wires
Just your basic stuff bro. Your going to need a poly tranny mount after your install of the shift kit. I love it feels more better and stronger. What kind of shift kit are you installing? If you need any help i can help you cause i had to do it twice already.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Car: 89 IROCZ Camaro
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was gonna dump a basic B&M kit till i saw this trango kit. think ima save up and get one.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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I just rebuilt my 700 with a b&m, it shifts soft.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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shifts soft but is it nice when u floor it? hows the kit hold up to the power?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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It doesn't seem that much different to me, then again I might need to adjust the tv. It was the kit that was in there when Atlantic transmissions originally rebuilt it, I just used the same pieces when I rebuilt it. It is Atlantics/B&M shift kit and does not follow b&m's shim procedures.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Car: Camaro RS/SS
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Transmission: 4L60E Transgo shift kit, 3500 stall
Axle/Gears: 4th Gen Rear 3:42
I did a lot of reading before i decided on what shift kit to go with and the Trans-go was the best over all. I love the way it shifts. I would stay away from B&M. Trans-go instructions are just simple to follow. The only hard part i had to do was lowering the Valve body that was it.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Transmission: 700-R4 Race prepped
I had a shift kit installed when i rebiult my 700R4. I also had larger and more vain pump put in, Kevlar race packs, corvette servo, hardened shafts and sprags etc. etc. Adn i can chirp first, second and sometimes third. And yes, it's WAY Fun!

Happy motoring!


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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Transmission: 4L60E Transgo shift kit, 3500 stall
Axle/Gears: 4th Gen Rear 3:42
Man jack, that crazy how you can chirp 3rd somtimes, It feels like my can do but i just need a taller gear ratio in the back. Planning on going 4:11 soon. does your tranny still work?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
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I have this with my car but it created a problem for me too. My car now shifts too soon, tried adjusting the TV cable and its right on so my next step is a governor calibration kit to brin the rpms up a little before it shifts. I can manually shift mine and the thing will bark the tires on the one two shift really easy and I love how the shifts feel, now if I can just get the points right my trans will be bad ***.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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wuts the TV cable do? and is that hard to get to?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
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without telling you exactly how an automatic works Ill tell you what it is simply. Its the cable that runs from your throttle body on the engine to the trans. It moves a valve inside the valve body called the throttle valve. This valve changes certain hydraulic passeges alowing fluid to flw into different areas that effect shifting. You have to adjust it just right so the shift points and firmness are right on, if its too soft you can have low shift points and burn up a trans in no time.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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sweet deal .. so its not THAT bad to adjust .. just time consuming?

very good detail on how it work tho =)
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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The TV cable has one, and only one correct position. Don't use it to vary shift firmness and timing.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Transmission: 700-R4 Race prepped
I've gto 3.36 in the rear, and it's a 9-bolt! I just got some MT/ ET Street Slicks and I'm hesitant to launch with them yet not wanting to frag the rear, but i've heard from several different peopel that it's okay. I went to TTS (Transmission Technology Services) and the on hand old guy took it for a drive with me in it and wanted it to shift a little later, we put the TV cable back towards the rear of the engine about 2 or 3 clicks, now 1st shifts @ 3000 normally, and about 3500 when you get on it some, and the other shift follow closely. So yes, the tranny is still in one piece and will stay that way i hope !

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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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[i] i can chirp first, second and sometimes third. And yes, it's WAY Fun! [/B]

Chirp 1st gear?


I guess that means when you put it from park to 1st it chirps the tires standing still....hell ya thats a shift kit! --Dan
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Here, you guys will love this! Fro the grand finale when i put it from park to reverse i actually get some wheel spin. Everything chirps, and its awesome!


brett
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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Car: 89 IROCZ Camaro
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haha .. i can spin the wheels in reverse also .. w/o a shift kit =) always fun for a car show to smoke ur tires while pullin backward into a spot. =)
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Ive got a B&M in my 86, I love the way it feels. It shifts hard every time and never fails to chirp second.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Hey. My girlfriend bought me a b&m shift kit for our anniversary today and I wanted to install it myself. Now, the guy I bought the car from never mentioned a shift kit, but when i put the car in reverse or drive from neutral or park, i usually leave a little skid mark, and the whole car kind of cluncks. And also, going into second from first, the shift is almost always a little firm, not hard though. Is there something I should adjust or fix before putting the kit in, or maybe I already have a kit? I doubt it, but it is really jerky sometimes. Thanks a lot guys.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Transmissions before 1987 didn't have the accumulators in the auxiliary valvebody to soften the initial shift into drive or reverse.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by ZZ4 86 Z28
Hey. My girlfriend bought me a b&m shift kit for our anniversary today and I wanted to install it myself. Now, the guy I bought the car from never mentioned a shift kit, but when i put the car in reverse or drive from neutral or park, i usually leave a little skid mark, and the whole car kind of cluncks. And also, going into second from first, the shift is almost always a little firm, not hard though. Is there something I should adjust or fix before putting the kit in, or maybe I already have a kit? I doubt it, but it is really jerky sometimes. Thanks a lot guys.

my car does the same thing. Its got a pretty hard shift from park to drive and reverse. Not so with the GTA
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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another way to get your shift points up(as far as mph) is to get a governor out of a 4 cyl. and install it. on normal take off, i shift at about 18 -20 mph and drive is between 38 and 42mph. the weights on the 4 cyl. are real light to let it rev some before you shift.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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i was actually about to put up a new thread, but im glad this one came back. i am about to install the kit myself cause the mechanic wanted like 300 to do it. i want to reset the tv cable back to normal just to make sure its right before i do the install. can somebody help me with this. the car is a 86 z28 tpi. thanks a lot.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Well want you could do is do the gas pedal adjustment. Just go to the TV cable and pull it out some then go into the car and push down on the gas pedal all the way down and then you should clicks. Thats it
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Alright, how do I locate the TV cable. I know what it is, just not where it is.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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I have a shift kit im my L98, on some good days I can get a chirp shifting into 3rd, i always chirp second.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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this thread explains it pretty well

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...v+cable+adjust
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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wow, thanks a bunch.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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sorry, i was trying to find one that had a pic. the cable is attatched to the throttle body and the adjustment is right behind it.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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but arent there three cables connected to the throttle body?
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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yeah, there are. one goes to the tranny, one to the gas peddle, and one to the cruise control. you want the one that goes to the tranny. look at this pic. see the black cracket just behind the throttle body? the big hole in it that is closest to the drivers side of your car is the tv cable. hope this pic helps.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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you mean that big black thing halfway between the throttle body and the runners, with the sqaure hole in it. and will the cable be running through that hole?
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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yep, that's it.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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ok, i got the car back today. that black thing has two cables going through it...the only 2 cables connected to the throttle body?! so theres only two cables...and theyre both in the same place.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 05:57 AM
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the one for cruise control is taken out most likely. the tv cable is the one that is closest to you when looking at the motor from the drivers side.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ramair21
Well want you could do is do the gas pedal adjustment. Just go to the TV cable and pull it out some then go into the car and push down on the gas pedal all the way down and then you should clicks. Thats it
OMG ! NO ! It IS NOT SELF ADJUSTING ! You have to have someone push the D-shaped button in while pressing the gas pedal to the floor ! When the pedal is to the floor, let off of the D-shaped button.
When you push the gas pedal to the floor, the cable should be tight, with NO slack .
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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That could work too but thats what i was told by a friend who workd on tranny's for a living. You could push the D button and pull out the TV cable out some and then go inside and push the gas pedal down. I did it and it worked for me. Just trying to spread the love
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Anyone ever remove the Wave Plates in the TRANS along with modifing the valve body, torque converter and some other goodies? there will be no need to floor it to get it to chrip. Removeing the wave plates creates an extremly hard shift.

on my old 350 turbo trans i did it ( heard about it from some old timers), anyway it was fun as hell. Trans held up very nice too 50k and then sold it.. Infact my trans lasted 10k in my 85 buick regal 3.8 turbo with 4'11s then 2.73 rear. Later on i bought and 84 grand prix 383 again 4'11s and 2.07 gears. Wow I'd be able to just smoke tires going 50mph(with my 2.07 gears too) and my mph needle would jump up to like 90mph when it would shift hahahahahah good times.

I have've had issues with my spriders in my rear ends thats about it. I'd totally smoke the tires when shifting so much it was very scary at times and any movement in the steering the car would loose total control. I can't wait till i get another G-body i'm going to tpi it then a crazy shift kit with some 4'11s again. just be a weekend driver. and maybe the trak too hehe Let me no if anyone else has remove wave plates?

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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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try and explain this to me in more detail. i have heard about it as well. but then i can return the kit cause i havent opened it yet.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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you need to overhale the entire trans to remove wave plates, you wanta keep the shift kit too. they go hand in hand. basicly the wave plates are between the clutch packs it makes the smoother shift removing them will force a packs to clide to togther.

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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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no better feeling then to be able to JUST freakin smoke tires shifting into second gear and chriping them into thrid gear in an auto with 99.6% chance of non failure... you have to have some skill in a manual car and tons of cash for worn parts. I build that trans like 6 years ago for my buick(loved that car) then i totalled that ride. Bought like a grand prix 4 years ago put that 350 trans in it and sold it last year. because emissions SUCK! anyway you really have to be a trans guy to be able to drill out the valve body the correct amount, remove the correct parts and so on. It's been a while so trying to remember with out taking it a part might be a challage but i'll try my best to inform you on what you need to do.. I'd love to pull apart my vette's trans but it's aready gotta mild shift kit and plus i rather not beat up my rear end. Because once you start to build a trans that shifts hard as hell you can sure count on losing ujoints,drive shafts,and rear end troubles, differnt types of mounts for replacement too, thats for damn sure. oh and getting pulled OVER too hahah.

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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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ok, ill just stick with the shift kit.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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This wave plate thing and whatnot your talking about, does that apply to th-350 trannies?

If it does maybe ill butcher up my trans and see if i can kill it
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: D36 2:59
Dude I think it can apply to any auto Tranny, most auto trannys are built the same for the most part... This Th-350 Tranny what is that out of? i no most rwd gm cars had th-350 what year and model are you talking about?, sorry it's been a while since i've been outta the shop? All the newer trannys are very computer control and may not work out so great if you try this, some only control the switchs and are fine to tweek but otherwise it might not be so great? But not to sure. For example my 88 vette computer controls only TTC enage and disenage tweekin this trans is OK.
I think that is a standard 350 trans you're talking about and not a 350 turbo. It's never a bad idea to hackup a trans, at least you learn about it. If you've never taken apart a trans and you have a spare, do it you'll learn. but Before taking it apart invest in a total tool kit for what trans model you're pulling apart and grab book. Without the special tools you're a sitting duck. you won't get anywhere past the pump.

Good Luck

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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Axle/Gears: '01 3.42 10 bolt
350 trans=th350=turbohydromatic350
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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From: Yellowknife, NWT, Canada
Car: 84 Z28
Engine: 357
Transmission: TH-350C
Axle/Gears: 3.43
AFAIK GM only made 2 350 trans and they were both TH350's but one had lockup or something like that.

My trans is an 81 and i have no clue what it was originally out of but i can tell you the valve body is a bit different from a regular th350. I found that out while installing my shift kit...
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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if it's a 81, i'd say you can go to town on it. good luck
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