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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 08:49 AM
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AutoStick?

Ok, this may be a stupid question, and I am not all that knowleadable in the transmission department. But does anyone make an Autostick transmission such as the Dodge Intrepids have? I had the privelage to drive with one, and I must say, it was awesome.

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 09:54 AM
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Not really, or not that I ever heard of. It would require an electronic controlled transmission for that which our 700R4s aren't. They do make full manual valve bodys where you can shift each gear manually. But I bet that could get to be a pain in the *** .

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 01:38 PM
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I don't understand those transmissions... basically you either put it in Drive and let it sit; or you move the stick yourself without a clutch?

I can do the same thing now!


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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 01:46 PM
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Basically, the you have the option of Drive, and Overdrive like you do normally, but then you can invoke the "Autostick" mode, which will alow you to tap the stick either left or right to switch gears up or down. You get all the power and feel of a manual transmission, without the need for the hassle or misshifts like you do with the clutch. There is also a failsafe in the transmission, when your RPM's are too high, it will automatically shift itself into the next gear when in "autostick" mode, making it virually impossible to blow the engine..

All I gotta say is its TOTALLY sweet!

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 02:10 PM
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Most of our cars won't (atleast mine when it was an auto and most I hear of) won't shift until about 6 grand or so when in 1 or 2 which is pretty much a safety device and manual control.

However, auto stick isn't that great.

It's not really the best of both worlds. Half the fun of stick is clutch dumps and the feeling of ripping through an H pattern.

Then again I guess it would be nice to be able to drink in a car designed without cupholders.

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 04:46 PM
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Let's not forget the 1.5 second lag in the autostick>>>>>>>WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP. POS is all I gotta say.
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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 05:36 PM
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Auto stick sucks. I can manually shift my 700r4(just like any automatic) if I hold it in gear. I can also down shift when I want(except if it would over-rev the engine). Auto stick is the same way, it won't let you over-rev. What exactly is the advantage of autostick? It doesn't feel at all like a manual. The only thing it can do that a normal auto can do is it will take off from a dead stop in what ever gear you want. I can really see how taking off in high gear from a dead stop is usefull--not. It's a gimmick.


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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 05:37 PM
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why not just get a manual transmission? clutch is optional
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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 06:01 PM
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I don't know how the autostick works but I can tell you that downshifting an automatic while driving like the 700R, TH350, etc. is surely the way to kill it(except for going from OD to D). Manually upshifting is fine but downshifting is not something you really want to be doing. Holding gears in an auto is also a bad idea due to heat among other things. All automatics will force an upshift if left in a lower gear eventually due to pressure build up. I don't recommend you try this with your car unless you want to blow the transmission in the near future.
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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 06:39 PM
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I was unaware that my auto did that. I never let it get high enough that it has to shift itself

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 08:03 PM
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I have a fully manual 700R-4 and I can hold and gear to any RPM but it does not have engine braking. I call it a Manumatic. Other than that it's sweet. The ultimate tranny is the Trans-Go Stick Shift option. All shifting all the time with engine braking.

BTW 82Camaro starting in second or third gets you going in snow more easily. So there is a use for the Auto Stick.

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 09:25 PM
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CamaroMike, Do you have any pics of your car/engine? Those are some sweet times. Haven't seen a ZZ4 actually in a camaro yet. Just seen the pictures of the crate engine.

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 09:48 PM
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Yes I do have pics but no way to post them, their not on a web page. I did e-mail you some pics. Tell me what you think!

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Old Dec 10, 2000 | 04:09 PM
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Just a quick note, Lincon has that auto-stick
option on its sports line, I think its the LS line and they have been plagued with technical failure and problems and soon will be recalling them do to their tranny troubles, this is what I hear, go figure--FORD sucks...

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Old Dec 11, 2000 | 09:19 PM
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I knew that somebody would bring up the snow thing with the higher gear start. That's for people that can't control their right foot. If you take off slow, it makes no difference what gear you're in. The higher gear reduces the torque to the drive wheels, so does less throttle. I've downshifted all of my cars(quite often) for years and years(since I started driving 11 years ago). Never burned up a tranny yet.

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Old Dec 11, 2000 | 10:20 PM
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If you have 400HP it's a little hard to ease into the gas in snow! Shifing to third forces more control of the rear power transfer. 82 you must not have driven many high horsepower cars in the snow.

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Old Dec 12, 2000 | 11:38 AM
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Driven lots of high HP cars in the snow. You just have to go slow. Most of the high horse cars don't have that option anyway. th350,th400, ect... don't have a 2nd gear start.

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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 03:24 PM
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WTH are you doing driveing your nice
third gen with 400 hp in the snow? :P
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