B&M TRICK SHIFT...IS IT...
B&M TRICK SHIFT...IS IT...
...worth $3.99/quart? It has been two years since I did the tranny fluid, and that was when I put the B&M shift kit in. It hasnt been 30,000 miles but I want to do it cause I want my car to be happy. I see trick shift for sale at Discount Auto for $4 a qt. I am not sure I want to spend that much and find out it is a gimmick. Anyone aver use this stuff and if so is it worth it?
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1987 GTA 350,rebuilt in 1998. new heads, headers w/y-pipe, 45,000coil, accel plug wires and cap&rotor, k&n, b&m shift kit and trans cooler, modified mass airflow sensor, manual fans switch. No time slip.
1993 Bonneville SSE ALL STOCK. 95,xxx miles and stil counting...
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1987 GTA 350,rebuilt in 1998. new heads, headers w/y-pipe, 45,000coil, accel plug wires and cap&rotor, k&n, b&m shift kit and trans cooler, modified mass airflow sensor, manual fans switch. No time slip.
1993 Bonneville SSE ALL STOCK. 95,xxx miles and stil counting...
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From: Loveland, OH, US
Car: 4
Engine: 6
Transmission: 5
It is Type F fluid produced at a refinery local to B&M, with blue dye. Perfectly good stuff although nothing special. Just use Type F. It has more of the clutch friction modifiers in it; if you ever look inside a F*rd trans from the 50s or 60s, like a medium-case Cruise-O-Matic or something, you'll get a real kick out of the clutches. They're like half the total surface area if that compared to a GM trans. F*rd had to invent a special fluid to make their weenie little POSs survive. Back in the days before you could buy shift kits like you can now for absolutely anything, we used to call it "shift kit in a can"... of course that would be "in a plastic bottle" nowadays.
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
IMO, that's a lot to pay for something that isn't really any better than what it is replacing. Synthetic ATF, while even more per quart than the Trick Shift, gives even better friction modifying performance and increases the temperature that the fluid can withstand - while reducing the heat the tranny actually produces. AMSOIL ATF is both Dextron III and Type F rated.
If you really want to make your tranny happy, go the extra step and switch over to AMSOIL ATF.
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R. 2.73 unlimited slip. Cat-back from '91 GTA, Accel HEI SuperCoil. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily driver, work-in-progress (LB9 w/ZZ3 cam, TBD heads, exhaust, paint, etc.).
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. 0.030 over 396, Weiand Action+, Edelbrock 1901 Q-Jet, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" headers, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & shift kit, 3.08 10-bolt, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Best 15.1 @ 5800' Bandimere. Daily driver while Camaro was being put together.
If you really want to make your tranny happy, go the extra step and switch over to AMSOIL ATF.
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R. 2.73 unlimited slip. Cat-back from '91 GTA, Accel HEI SuperCoil. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily driver, work-in-progress (LB9 w/ZZ3 cam, TBD heads, exhaust, paint, etc.).
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. 0.030 over 396, Weiand Action+, Edelbrock 1901 Q-Jet, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" headers, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & shift kit, 3.08 10-bolt, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Best 15.1 @ 5800' Bandimere. Daily driver while Camaro was being put together.
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From: Elizabeth, Colorado
Car: '94 Corvette
Engine: LT1
Transmission: 4L60E
In defense of B&M Trick shift they do add modifiers that outperform both Dextron III & Type F.
Now does it outperform synthetics. Probably not, however synthetic ATF cost upwards of $5-6 bucks a quart.
I use a happy medium. Valvoline Durablend ATF.
Ron
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'82 Trans Am
'81 Camaro Z-28
'94 Vette LT1 Coupe
Now does it outperform synthetics. Probably not, however synthetic ATF cost upwards of $5-6 bucks a quart.
I use a happy medium. Valvoline Durablend ATF.
Ron
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'82 Trans Am
'81 Camaro Z-28
'94 Vette LT1 Coupe
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Hmmmm, if ProBuilt sees this perhaps he can verify, but I thought a month or so ago he recommended the AMSOIL synthetic ATF - or at least said it was the best you could get.
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From: NE
Car: 82 camaro SC
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
wal-mart dextron works fine for me. I've used the stuff for about 7 years. Anything synthetic is going to be better, but at a larger cost. If you want it to shift harder, put in a .500 boost valve(23.69 from summit and easy to install). A vette servo might help as well.
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82 camaro--original steering wheel, brake/gas pedals, seats--everything else modified
82camaro
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82 camaro--original steering wheel, brake/gas pedals, seats--everything else modified
82camaro
Hey Five7Kid go to the Apperance boards and look for the post concerning people from Denver, CO. We are trying to start a club for F-bodies in Colorado.
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Mike Kenny
Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube powered by a Alpine V12 in back
K&N filter w/XStream flow lid - It is sweet!!
Future: 2" Cowl hood
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Mike Kenny
Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube powered by a Alpine V12 in back
K&N filter w/XStream flow lid - It is sweet!!
Future: 2" Cowl hood
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