i put a b&m stage 2 shift kit in my 700 and now (a couple months later) the 2-3 shifts are really lagging worse than stock so if anyone can gelp please do thanks

 

i also want to add that i want to make my 2-3 shifts almost as hard as my 1-2 shifts. is there anything i can do to the valve body to do this. i also have to say that my tranny shifts at 3000 rpms at WOT whats wrong with my tranny?

 

Once you start to get a delay on the 2-3 shift the clutches are almost always gone. Time for a rebuild, you will need to replace the 3-4 clutches with the latest updates (Borg Warner Hi-Energy 3-4 clutches & B.W. Hi-Energy 2-4 band) Install the Trans-Go Performance Shift kit along with the Corvette servo, .500 main boost valve, .296 intermediate/reverse boost valve, etc. These are some of the things that you should do as a minimum if you want performance shifts and longevity. If you have any questions about this call me at 800 7763288 Mon-Sat 10-6 PST and I will be glad too help!

 

I don't think this pertains to your situtation, but for the heck of it: A lot of people after installing shift kits notice that their shifts get softer... all they have to do is reset the TV cable and they're back to "normal". Might be worth a shot anyway.

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I agree with the 2nd post...

 

so will the corvette servo make my 1-2 shifts a hell of alot better and is their a servo that would make the 2-3 shifts better like for instance a corvette servo?????

 

The servo doesn't control the 2-3 shift (except for releasing)

When the band releases... The only thing added into the mix is the 3-4 pack applying. Among other sprags/clutches functioning.

The 3-4 pack is probably the most stressed areas of a 700r4 second to the band (as for frictions go)

I'm in the process of building mine and when I tore it down I noticed: Band wore into rivets, severly pitted and 3-4 clutches were shot... I mean shot! first two frictions had NO material on them! the third had chunks missing (from back to front) the steels between these were rainbow/blue from heat, and the whole pack was covered in brown varnish.

I went with red eagle 3-4 powerpack with turbulator kolene steels to hopefully remedy this. It puts 9 frictions in the 3-4 (Tranny had no re-builds and 100,000mi behind a severly beaten 350)

After tearing it down completely (every piece! even the damn vent tube) and cleaning every piece I noticed while working on the valve body that the TV valve was jammed in the housing. It's supposed to 'fall right out' but this took major screwdriver prying to get it out... and I had a good safe spot to pry on and it took me 30 minutes to finally get it out! This could (most likely) have been the cause but I also had those 3-4 release springs........

Anyway. All the other clutches looked pretty good for a 100,000 mi trans. 3-4 really takes a beating.

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'88 Camaro RS 2.8L
'88 Formula 350 (Too many mods to list...)

 

is it hard to rebuild the tranny or will it take like a weekend?

 

I've been putting in about 10 hours a weekend for 3 weeks now.

I know of people who just dissasemble and change the frictions and reassemble w/o checking any clearances. Sometimes they luck out. Other times they waste the rebuild kit. I am in no hurry to finish. If I was i'd probably get a 'loaner' trans so I could do it right (no hurry no stress)

I am changing all the wear parts except the planetaries (they still look great) adding a 13 vane pump (My slide is shot anyway) the 3-4 full throttle upgrade kit, blocking the accumulators, and redrilling the sep plate, blocking the line bias, taking the 4-3 spring out....................................

Much more. Plus alot of waiting for parts to arrive and a weekend shot getting the case hot tanked.

I'm assembling it inside on a stand. It's robably better to do this because garages are very dirty and you really don't want any junk ending up inside. Plus there's ALOT of parts that could get easily mis-placed.

 

I'm not going the rebuild route again. I don't have anyone in town that specializes in high performance automatics and it's been less than a year since a total rebuild on this one. I just bought a TCI trans and converter to save myself the headaches of having to rebuild this sucker every year.

 

Yeah, I went with the TCI also. I would like to tear into that to see what they did to firm the 1-2 shift and some other things. I thought it was going south on me, but it just did it once (hesitate on a shift) and it was real cold out and just started not too long before. It hasn't done it again though. (whheww)

I hear lots of slamming of the tci, and so far i can't complain (knock on wood) but it will have to take the punishment i dish out for another 3-4 years to make me happy. I don't baby them cause my motto is 'if it broke while taking a beating, it was a pos anyway!'

I don't enjoy the tcc wire up they put on these, and don't recommend using the vacuum switch they give you because all it does is 'cycle' the tcc. REAL ANNOYING!

Drop the pan and hard wire the lockup solnoid to the 4th switch and the +12 from the brake pedal (I think terminal 'A') There's no reason a healthy v8 can't pull 4th locked all the time.

If I was to do it again, I probably wouldn't have gotten the tci... There are many cheaper (do a search on 700r4!) around 300-500 cheaper and include a tc!



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'88 Camaro RS 2.8L
'88 Formula 350 (Too many mods to list...)

 

Give me a call at 800 7763288 Mon-Sat 10-6 PST. I can help you with either a performance transmission or the parts needed to build one correctly. If you have never done a 700R4 rebuild before then I would have someone with you that has experience with 700R4's help you out. The Corvette servo does help 2nd & 3rd gear firmness. For the transmission shifting at 3,000 at WOT, (1) the TV cable could be way out of adjustment, (2) the TV system might not be responding to any adjustments (common problem), (3) possibly a stuck governor. Again if you have any questions call me?
Glad too help!!!

 

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