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Old Apr 4, 2001 | 11:11 AM
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What tools needed for 700R-4 removal??

I am going to begin removing my 700-R4 trans and I am wondering what the tools for success are?? I heard a long extension is needed, but is there anything else that would help?

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Old Apr 4, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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Car: '91 Z28
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Basic hand tools is about all you'll need - and some patience. You'll have to remove a few things that are in the way, but again, basic hand tools. You'll need both std. and metric tools. I don't know how you're going to drop the tranny itself, but if you're using a floor jack, a nice piece of wood about the size of a tranny pan will be very nice to have. I made my own "cradle" out of wood before I even got started to pull it out. Also, the forward part of the pan is about the center of balance...

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Old Apr 4, 2001 | 01:50 PM
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Use a tranny jack. I got one from Harbor Freight for $50 - cheap, but gets the job done. Or rent one.

I've tried the floor jack routine: I'm feeling better now, thank you.

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Old Apr 5, 2001 | 07:29 AM
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Various long and short extentions and wobbles let you get many of the bellhousing bolts from under the car. I think there's one on top by the passenger side I had to get with a wrench because of the dipstick or something. Wobbles that are spring loaded or those nifty new snap on ones that have the socket built in are better because they don't go floppin and slippin all around.
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Old Apr 5, 2001 | 08:47 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by five7kid:
...I've tried the floor jack routine: I'm feeling better now, thank you. </font>
Ouch... sounds like you had an accident... When I used my floorjack and made a cradle for it, I cut the wood to the same size as the pan, then put blocks on the front and sides, and then put blocks on the under side, spaced apart the same width as the "cup" on the jack. That way the cradle stayed in position but I could slide it back and forth only if I had to. With 2 people, it worked out really well. The second time I had to R&R it, I was alone on the install part of it, but that cradle on the jack worked like a charm for me... Just my personal experience...

KAM

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Old Apr 5, 2001 | 08:54 AM
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Make sure to have plenty of beer, and a second hand (friend). I have a three foot extension and a universal that allowed me to get to all of the bolts. You'll also need a (I think) 15 mm wrench to remove the three toque convertor bolts. A large screwdriver to wedge in the flexplate to keep it from turning helps when taking thes bolts out.

Come to think about it, 150 pound transmission, floor jack, jackstands.....maybe the beer should be for after the job is done.

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Old Apr 5, 2001 | 10:28 AM
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YES! That 3 foot lonng extension & swivel is a god!! Make sure it's a thick 1/2 inch drive unit, and not the thin 3/8 inch stuff that comes in a socket set. I had a lonnng 3/8" extension that wasn't working- the thin thing was twisting up and absorbing my torque.

I just unbolted the trans from a 2.8 (since we were doing an engine swap). Visit one of my "update" posts here: https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/001226.html I give the exact assembly of tools to use. Remember- this is for the smaller version of the 700r4 (for a V6), so I might've had more room than you will.

Oh- when I actually swapped the trannies on my '86, I too made a wooden adapter to connect the trans to my hydraulic floor jack. It wasn't as complex, but it was a board with another thin board screwed to the front. That thin board went directly in front of the trans pan, so it rested on the trans case. Then I "guessed" at the center of gravity for the trans, and put the hydraulic jack up. I guessed pretty well! Next time I do this, though, I want to buy the trans jack. The thing was very hard to made with the engine using my homemade jack.


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Old Apr 5, 2001 | 02:27 PM
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Well, the tranny took a thump on the garage floor. Went back in with a rented tranny jack, got my own for the next round.

As for feeling better, it's the medications...

A 9/16" universal joint socket on the longest Craftsman 3/8 drive extension available did the job for me. I'd recommend getting the socket rather than just putting a standard socket on a u-joint.

I still haven't found a drain pan that will fit under the entire tranny pan (other than those big, flat pans with virtually no sides). Put in a drain plug while the tranny's out.
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Old Apr 6, 2001 | 11:27 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by five7kid:
I still haven't found a drain pan that will fit under the entire tranny pan </font>
A kitty litter box works pretty good. A new one of course...

KAM

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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 12:55 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by thunderstick:
A kitty litter box works pretty good. A new one of course...

KAM
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That's what I've been using. Long enough, but not wide enough.
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