i'm looking at a couple rebuild kits from http://www.hptransparts.com/
either the $150 or the $175 rebuild kits.what do you think about these?they are raybestos so i know it's a good brand.but do you think that's a good price a for a 700R4 rebuild kit?



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1991 banditt2 #130 of 600
Project 350 TPI Banditt II
http://www.street-dawg-racing.cityslide.com
www.gcfba.com (Greater Cincinnati F-Body Association)
http://www.cincyspeed.com/

 

I purchased a kit from them... The alto red eagle kit with kolene steels. You need to realize for a 'full' rebuild you need the steels and band, also the paper and rubber kit, washer kit, thrust bearings, bushings and changing the sprag isn't a bad idea... ect. They arn't 100% complete. At that price it may only be the frictions. I'm sure they are quality parts. You can get the rest of the parts through them as well. Borg warner hi-energy kits are also high in quality.

 

i'm thinking about going with these parts for my tranny rebuild.i need some input on'em.i plan on making so real horsepower in the future and i want to make sure this tranny will handle it.

Banner Kit, 700-R4 w/ Blue Plate Friction clutches 1985 - 1993 Banner Kit includes:
Gaskets, seals and sealing ring kit.
Blue Plate friction clutch kit 4 Fwd clutches, 5 3/4 clutches, 2 Overrun clutches, 5 Low/Rev * clutches, 4 Rev. input * clutches. ( Low/Rev & Rev. input clutches are Hi-Static Tan friction)
#HP35017BP...$150.85


Band 700 / 4L60 / 4L60E Power Band Alto Red Eagle "Power Band"
60% thicker band anchor for HD use
2 5/8" wide
#HP35995PB...$22.00


Bearing kit, 700 / 4L60-E 1982-up #HP35669 Torrington thrust bearing kit:
#HP35669...$15.67


Washer kit 700-R4 / 4L60 82-93 #HP35670
#HP35670...$5.25
Bushing kit, 4L60 / 700-R4 #HP35601
Kit includes all the popular bushings for a complete rebuild.
#HP35601...$10.50


Sprag, 700-R4 forward 87-up #HP35881 28 element, silver caps
#HP35881...$34.75
Sprag, 700-R4 low/reverse 87-up #HP35882, Thick design
#HP35882...$13.30

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1991 banditt2 #130 of 600
Project 350 TPI Banditt II
http://www.street-dawg-racing.cityslide.com
www.gcfba.com (Greater Cincinnati F-Body Association)
http://www.cincyspeed.com/

 

i think this is what i'm going to go with for my tranny rebuild.parts will be ordered from http://www.hptransparts.com/ .is there anything else you would suggest replacing?my tranny has over 150,000 miles on it i want to make sure it's not a weak link after i rebuild it.

HP35995PBK Band 700 / 4L60 / 4L60E "Kevlar " Power Band $29.00
HP35601 Bushing kit, 4L60 / 700-R4 $10.50
HP35670 Washer kit 700-R4 / 4L60 82-93 $5.25
HP35669 Bearing kit, 700 / 4L60-E 1982-up $15.67
HP35881 Sprag, 700-R4 forward 87-up $34.75
HP35882 Sprag, 700-R4 low/reverse 87-up $13.30
PP7730 700-R4 30 Spline Pro-Steet Intruder 2300-2800 stall w/ Lock-up $182.00
HP35003BP Master Kit, 700-R4 w/ Blue Plate Friction clutches $175.66
8 Sub Total $466.13
Tax $0.00
Shipping/Handling $6.00
Total $472.13


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1991 banditt2 #130 of 600
Project 350 TPI Banditt II
http://www.street-dawg-racing.cityslide.com
www.gcfba.com (Greater Cincinnati F-Body Association)
http://www.cincyspeed.com/

 

Stay away from the Kevlar band, use the Borg Warner Hi-Energy 2-4 band or the redlined band from Alto as mentioned. Kevlar has a poor coefficient properties (poor holding power & it eats the steel drum up). You forgot the Trans-Go Performance Shift kit with both boost valves & Corvette servo.

 

TransGo Reprogramming kit and the Hi Rev release springs that come with it. TransGo Hi Rev Pump Ring Kit. 4L60E 3-4 pack and Input Sprag Assembly. All Borg Warner frictions. Corvette rear planetary. NEW GM Sun Shell. Minimum endplay settings. Depending on power, 553 Servo or 093 (Vette). .422" PR Boost Valve for small block, .477 for big block or HIGH power small block. .282 Int/Rev Boost Valve. TruCool LPD cooler and bypass the radiator.
The converter choice depends completely on the power band of the engine. Your stall should be at or just below where your engine STARTS to make power and the WOT shift points should be set so that it is completed BEFORE the power starts to fall off (NOT your max RPM). A top quality converter supplier is Continental: The number for Continental Converters in Inglewood Ca. is 1-310-674-1072

 

i already have the accumulator piston,boost sleeve(.500")and Corvette style servo from http://www.hptransparts.com/ and the T/Q is only a tempary thing untill i can afford a better T/Q



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1991 banditt2 #130 of 600
Project 350 TPI Banditt II
http://www.street-dawg-racing.cityslide.com
www.gcfba.com (Greater Cincinnati F-Body Association)
http://www.cincyspeed.com/

 

i have about $500 i want to spend on getting parts for my tranny rebuild.it's has over 150,000 miles on it and is in real bad shape os i want to get it rebuilt while i have the money.what do you think i should spend the money on?

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1991 banditt2 #130 of 600
Project 350 TPI Banditt II
http://www.street-dawg-racing.cityslide.com
www.gcfba.com (Greater Cincinnati F-Body Association)
http://www.cincyspeed.com/

[This message has been edited by 91banditt2 (edited September 21, 2001).]

 

should i upgrade to a 13 vain pump or is the 10 vain pump enough for the street?this is a street car

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1991 banditt2 #130 of 600
Project 350 TPI Banditt II
http://www.street-dawg-racing.cityslide.com
www.gcfba.com (Greater Cincinnati F-Body Association)
http://www.cincyspeed.com/

 

IMHO a seven vane pump works just fine when A) the clearances are held to a minimum and B) the TransGo Shift Kit/Reprogramming Kit pressure control system changes are made to the tranny.

I built an '82 700 core (first year for 700's) years ago for a '77 Monte Carlo I had as that was all that I could find at the time. Mind you, in those days people were still taking 700's OUT and swapping in 350's. This had all of the factory weak points, such as the seven vane pump but last I heard, after I sold the tranny after I was done with it, it was used in a truck for 200K and now is going into a hopped up Nova. Save your money and spend it on the TransGo parts instead as that is what made my tranny last so long.

 

Does the trans go kit have a pump rebuild kit. 10 vanes are fine, but hptranparts only has the 13 kit so I got that. It really doesn't matter, but it's a good idea to rebuild the pump with a fresh slide and vanes, but most importantly to get rid of the break prone stock rings. The kit also has all the dual slide springs and seals. They have the vette servo and accumulator piston kit as a package. It's an excellent deal on it. Change the accumualtor pistons as the soft aluminum wears and the pistons could rock and cause pressure leaks... mine were worn pretty egg shaped at 108,000 miles.

 

You need to replace the accumulator pins in most cases along with the accumulator piston. The reason for the 13 vane was mainly for noise purposes (it runs quieter & slightly smoother). The 7 vane will for more oil than the others as long as the Trans-Go steel rings are used along with the matching priming spring from Trans-Go.
Glad To Help!!!

 

Even with the new pump build kit use the TransGo Hi REv Pump Ring Kit and new Priming Spring.