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Old 10-23-2001, 12:39 AM
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tranny for 600+ horsepower

I'm currently building a 355 with all the forged goodies and weiend 6-71 supercharger.
From what I've heard this engine should produce between 600 and 650 horsepower.(and thats without the nitrous) I know my 700R4 cannot handle this amount of power and I really don't want to go to a TH350 because I love driving on the Highway. Is a manual transmission the answer? If so, what one should I look for, Tremec, T5, T6 ? How hard is it to install a manual into a car that used to be an automatic?
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Old 10-23-2001, 10:08 AM
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If you want a manual tranny go for the T-56. Plenty of LS1 guys running 400 - 600 and one guy in particular doing 950 horses, but his clutch gaves. That should give you a good idea of the power potential of the T-56. As for autos, i believe yank makes a nice automatic transmission. Might wish to check it out. www.converters.cc

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Old 10-23-2001, 10:47 AM
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you are not as concerned about horsepower as you are with the amount of torque the engine will make. Notice on the specs of the trans it has a torque rating for it. Both the T-56 and The Tremec 3550 are rated at 450 ft/lbs and the Tremec TKO I beleive is rated at like 500 or 550 ft/lbs. I have seen videos of a guy with an LT1 that runs 10's on the stock T-56. He leaves the line at like 4000 grand, and that car definatley makes more the 450 ft/lbs.

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Old 10-23-2001, 11:25 AM
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Definitly agree with Screamin on the T-56, the LS1 guy hasn't made it to the track with his super shot of NOS but if i remember correctly his torque was also in the 900's. Like i said his clutch gave before he could finish, so that may be your only limitation.

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Old 10-23-2001, 01:31 PM
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umm no matter how much goodies u put into a 355 with just a weind blower theres no way ur gonna pump 600-650 horses, maybe if ur pupming 18PSI of boost but i doubt that, especially since u said and thats withought the NOS.
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For whatever it's worth, QwikTrp is using the Tremec TKO 5-speed with his supercharged 468
Old 10-23-2001, 08:09 PM
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If you want an auto with OD that will handle that much power then contact JET and buy a built up 4L80E. They're expensive and need a computer to operate. It's an electronic version of a TH400 with an overdrive.

Build the engine first and dyno it before estimating how much power it will produce. To build that much HP in a small block even with a blower, 92 octane won't be enough. You'll either have to run alcohol or VP C-12. Not good choices for a street car.

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Old 10-23-2001, 09:38 PM
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The 200R4 is another automatic option. That is what came in the GN's and TTA's. Art Carr is one guy who has lots of experience w/ sub 9 sec GN backed by the 200R4.

You should make up your mind of weather you want a full blown racecar or a street driver. You can have it all in one, but it is expensive. Plus, realize that every time you break something, there goes your transportation.

PS **** blowers! 600 hp N/A baby!!

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Car: 1988 Firebird S/E
Engine: 406Ci Vortec SBC
Transmission: TH-350/3500stall
Axle/Gears: 7.5" Auburn 4.10 Posi-Traction
Forget the overdrive. This motor won't
be happy cruising at 1400 rpm in OD. A 600+/-
hp Blown 355 should be good for 121 to 125mph
in the quarter and should peak out at around 6300 rpm. Pick a rear gear /tire combo to achieve this. With a 26" tire you would need
a 3.73 gear. On the hi-way at 60 mph you'll
be reving 3000 rpm. That's perfect for this engine. I'd use a th400 with a 3200/3500
stall converter. This combo won't get great gas mileage, but should cruise nicely with carfull carb tuning. By the way 600 hp in a blown 355 on pump gas (93/94 octane)is quite possible.
The secret is Low compression (7.3:1)
lots of boost and good breathing heads.
like fully ported darts or ar's. Jimmy Oddy
(Oddy's Perfection Engines) builds these in his sleep with off the shelf parts.
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What about a built TH400 with a Gear Vendors overdrive on it? That's what I'm in the process of putting in my car. Very expensive but hopefully won't break.
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How much nitrous are you planning on adding? If the total horsepower is around 750 then a 2004R setup can be made to work. I work with two people who have a couple of dozen "mid nine" Gran Nationals using their 2004R's, getting around 100-150 runs before having to go into the transmission again. I have have went thru quite a few of the Art Carr "so called" built to the hilt 2004R's & 700R4's, either because the units did not work right or were broke & Art would not fix them and if he did "fix" them they still were not working correctly. Some of these people had been back 2, 3 or more times and still their problems were not addressed. SAD! I have a few in the ten's and doing ok, but have not had a request for one going into a nine second vehicle. If I can be of help, let me know?
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