Fluid Flush
u really cant do it all in one sitting.
draining the pan will only get u about 4 quarts, there is another 6 or so in the converter.
some garages have a maching they hook up to the trans lines and they can flush it all out at once, but then they wont chage the filter.
what I would do is drop the pan, fill it back up, run it for 20 miles, then drop the pan again.
draining the pan will only get u about 4 quarts, there is another 6 or so in the converter.
some garages have a maching they hook up to the trans lines and they can flush it all out at once, but then they wont chage the filter.
what I would do is drop the pan, fill it back up, run it for 20 miles, then drop the pan again.
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I believe you can do it by yourself, without any special tools...
1. Drop the pan, change the fluid & filter, put the pan back up
2. Unhook the return line (from the factory cooler) at the trans, use a hose to lead it into a bucket. Use an empty quart of oil (filled with water) to mark "1 quart, 2 quart, etc" on the bucket... don't forget to dump the water out when you're done!
3. Remove your trans dipstick, put a funnel in there.
4. Start the car (stick in park). The engine will spin the TC, which spins the fluid pump, and fluid will get pushed thru the trans, thru the cooler, and get dumped into the bucket.
5. As the bucket fills, you pour new trans fluid into the trans to "match" what the trans spills out
6. When the bucket starts getting "clean" trans fluid, shut the car off.
[edit] This will work, right? Or, no?
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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)
[This message has been edited by TomP (edited November 20, 2001).]
1. Drop the pan, change the fluid & filter, put the pan back up
2. Unhook the return line (from the factory cooler) at the trans, use a hose to lead it into a bucket. Use an empty quart of oil (filled with water) to mark "1 quart, 2 quart, etc" on the bucket... don't forget to dump the water out when you're done!

3. Remove your trans dipstick, put a funnel in there.
4. Start the car (stick in park). The engine will spin the TC, which spins the fluid pump, and fluid will get pushed thru the trans, thru the cooler, and get dumped into the bucket.
5. As the bucket fills, you pour new trans fluid into the trans to "match" what the trans spills out
6. When the bucket starts getting "clean" trans fluid, shut the car off.
[edit] This will work, right? Or, no?

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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)
[This message has been edited by TomP (edited November 20, 2001).]
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Yes, you can. The cooler line is 1/4", and at an idle, the pump isn't pushing all that hard.
I've been doing what Tom described for about 15 years. It is also the method recommended by AMSOIL ( http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq8.htm ).
Tom did abreviate a little. Note that you should refill the pan with new fluid before you disconnect the return line and start the engine.
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I've been doing what Tom described for about 15 years. It is also the method recommended by AMSOIL ( http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq8.htm ).
Tom did abreviate a little. Note that you should refill the pan with new fluid before you disconnect the return line and start the engine.
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R4, 2300 stall TC. Ported World 305 heads, Crane PowerMax 2050 cam. ZZ4 intake, oil pump, pan & baffle. Accel HEI SuperCoil & module. Hooker 2055 headers, 3" Catco cat & 3" catback w/dual-opposite Flowmaster 80. 2.93 limited slip. Spohn SFCs waiting to be installed. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily year-round driver. Best ET, speed TBD...
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. '66 396, 9.7:1 forged TRWs, Weiand Action+, Holley 750VS w/4150 conversion, GK 270 cam, Magnum rockers, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" Hedders & 3" Warlocks, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & Trans-Scat shift kit, MegaShifter, 3.08 8.2" 10-bolt w/Powertrax, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Idles smooth @ 700 RPM in D. Best 15.02/95.06 @ 5800' Bandimere (corrected 13.93/102.4 @ sea level).
100 bucks at Jiffy Lube and they'll do it professionally.. this includes the price of a whole ****load of tranny fluid...
Basically they hook a pump up to the collant lines in the front of the car, the pump pushes clean fluid into the trans...
They put a new filter in, put pan back on...
Start pump, start car...
Run the car throughout all the gears for about 5 minutes... when the fluid runs clean they shut the whole process down, make the fluid level right and you're off... They'll even do it right infront of your eyes if you'd like.
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C'mon, spin 'em for papa...
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Basically they hook a pump up to the collant lines in the front of the car, the pump pushes clean fluid into the trans...
They put a new filter in, put pan back on...
Start pump, start car...
Run the car throughout all the gears for about 5 minutes... when the fluid runs clean they shut the whole process down, make the fluid level right and you're off... They'll even do it right infront of your eyes if you'd like.
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1985 Camaro SC - 2.8L, auto.
C'mon, spin 'em for papa...
http://www.xenodrgn.f2s.com/Frontright.jpg
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Those machines do not replace your fluid. It reconditions it. If you have burnt fluid, they will not hook up to your car. The idea is to finely filter all of your fluid and then the machine adds "additives" to the fluid. I haven't seen one that will actually "replace" all of your fluid. Still a good idea though.
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GM, I know the part about hooking up to burnt fluid... but I was under the assumption that it flushed 20 quarts of fluid through the system...
I havn't had it done personally, more like hearing from a friend of a friend...
I havn't had it done personally, more like hearing from a friend of a friend...
700R4- Top Line. I have done this a little differently. I put a gauge on to check tranny operation, then I take the head off of the gauge and put the hose in a bucket while a run the car and add oil.
wut if u put the return line in a bucket off clean fluid, and the hose going To the cooler in an empty bucket. wouldn't that work???
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