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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
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stumped by rearend

I have a 1985 Iroc z camaro and it has a 3.42 gear ratio in the rearend. I was wondering why it doesn't have a posi? It is a one wheel wonder. Does anyone know if it was rare to have this option without a posi? It has the 305 tpi engine with 700r4 automatic. I want to install a posi, which is the best one to get?
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

Eaton is best for a street/strip car. If you want to auto cross or road race then the Torsen or Truetrac would be better.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt / 3.31 12 bolt
Re: stumped by rearend

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Eaton is best for a street/strip car. If you want to auto cross or road race then the Torsen or Truetrac would be better.
BGH is assuming you have a 10 bolt. Best to make sure before ordering.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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Re: stumped by rearend

Yes, with the 3.42 gear and lack of a limited slip differential I assumed it was the 10 bolt.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Re: stumped by rearend

Time for an upgrade to 28-spline axles:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...-10-bolts.html

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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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Re: stumped by rearend

With the 305 the 26 spline axles will probably be all right, but if any power upgrades are planned then the 28 spline upgrade is a very good idea.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

You could also you a lock right then you do not have to mess with rear end set up.It replace the spiders in the carrier and works like a posi
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

The reason it doesn't have a posi is it's not your car's original axle. an '85 IROC TPI could only have a 3.23:1, and you couldn't even special-order any other axle ratio with that engine.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
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Transmission: 700r4, Turbo 400
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42 posi
Re: stumped by rearend

It is the car's original rearend. I bought it with 55,000 miles on it. There also was an option of 3.42 gears in that year on the Iroc. I saw it on the bottom of the page when I clicked on (1985 Camaro '85). I also installed a 1989 corvette L98 engine in it. I think I should get 28 spline axles and a good posi for it. I have never had problems with the 26 spline axles and have spun through three sets of tires and I used to do alot of street racing.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
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Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42 posi
Re: stumped by rearend

G92 is the 3.42 gear option on automatic IROC's in 1985.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

None actually built.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

you could get a 3.42:1 with the carbureted IROC-Z, but this one is either not an original TPI car, or it's not the original axle. GM never emissions-certified the '85 LB9 with any ratios except 3.23:1 and 3.27:1. Therefore, none were built.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
Engine: modified L98 corvette, L82
Transmission: 700r4, Turbo 400
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42 posi
Re: stumped by rearend

MPFI V-6 LB8 motor introduced to replace carbureted LC1 V-6. It Had similar port injection as LB9 TPI V-8. All manual transmissions now 5 Speeds. 7.5 inch rear end dropped and replaced with a new 7.625 (7 5/8) inch rear end for all Camaros. G92 (performance axle ratio) only available on IROC-Z for 1985.



1985 Chevrolet Camaro Drivetrain List

YrModelTransEngine
code/typeCRDispl.HPTorqueInduc-
tionManual
std.Manual
opt.
(G92)Auto
std.Auto
opt.
(G92)85Sport CoupeM5,A4LQ9 L49.0:12.5 (151)88@4400132@2800TBI3.73----3.73----85Sport Coupe
BerlinettaM5,A4LB8 V68.9:12.8 (173)135@5100165@3900MFI3.42----3.42 ----85Sport CoupeA4LG4 V89.5:15.0 (305)155@4200245@20004bbl--------3.08----85BerlinettaA4LG4 V89.5:15.0 (305)155@4200245@20004bbl--------3.08----85Z28M5,A4LG4 V89.5:15.0 (305)155@4200245@20004bbl3.23----3.08----85Z28A4LB9 V89.5:15.0 (305)215@4400275@3200TPI--------3.23----85IROC-ZM5,A4LG4 V89.5:15.0 (305)155@4200245@20004bbl3.23----3.23----85IROC-ZM5L69 V89.5:15.0 (305)190@4800240@32004bbl HO3.73------------85IROC-ZA4LB9 V89.5:15.0 (305)215@4400275@3200TPI--------3.233.42

If none were built mine must be a one of a kind.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
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Transmission: 700r4, Turbo 400
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42 posi
Re: stumped by rearend

Does anyone else have a 1985 tpi iroc with 3.42 axle and no posi
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
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Transmission: 700r4, Turbo 400
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42 posi
Re: stumped by rearend

Mine was a original 1985 Iroc Tuned Port Injection car and I am sure this is the original axle. Disc brakes on the rear and I changed oil in rearend when I bought it and put synthetic 75w90 in it. I am sure it had never been apart before.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

May I ask how you determined that the ratio was 3.42?

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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
Engine: modified L98 corvette, L82
Transmission: 700r4, Turbo 400
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42 posi
Re: stumped by rearend

I counted the teeth on ring gear and pinion and divided ring gear number by pinion number.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

Humm, well here's my story. I purchased my 85 IROC (LG4) with 54,000. Someone had swapped out the 3.23's for a 2.77 or perhaps 3.08 with drums--even the 16" IROC wheels were missing. I've never discovered why, though I suspect the Delco-Moraine discs were a problem. At any rate, who knows what, where, and why may have occurred along the line--because the diff fluid had never been changed doesn't mean the rear end is original to the car. Anyway, good luck with your quest.

JamesC

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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

Originally Posted by Atilla the Fun
you could get a 3.42:1 with the carbureted IROC-Z, but this one is either not an original TPI car, or it's not the original axle. GM never emissions-certified the '85 LB9 with any ratios except 3.23:1 and 3.27:1. Therefore, none were built.
They are fairly rare with 205 made. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...re-asking.html but they were made.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc Camaro, 1974 type LT Z28
Engine: modified L98 corvette, L82
Transmission: 700r4, Turbo 400
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42 posi
Re: stumped by rearend

Thanks mr369 that is awesome information. I new mine had 3.42 gears from factory.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Re: stumped by rearend

Originally Posted by dwinhofer
Thanks mr369 that is awesome information. I new mine had 3.42 gears from factory.
Read this post there was a shortage of LSD's in 1985. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...akes-open.html
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