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Old 07-23-2010, 01:37 PM
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Auto to Manual swap

Just completed my auto to manuel swap in my 1987 camaro. took only 2 days in my driveway. any questions on it your free to ask
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

hey yeah i just did a auto to manuel swap and broke the plastic clutch hose so i am trying to figure out what else i can use i tryed a braided rubber line and the brake fluid ate through it in hours and it blow off any suggestions?
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

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Just completed my auto to manuel swap in my 1987 camaro. took only 2 days in my driveway. any questions on it your free to ask
why'd it take so long? lol
we did 2 swaps in a day and a half on my driveway.
My auto into a friends 88 GTA and his T5 into my 88 Formula.
Had both cars on jack stands next to each other and just moved everything over.
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

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hey yeah i just did a auto to manuel swap and broke the plastic clutch hose so i am trying to figure out what else i can use i tryed a braided rubber line and the brake fluid ate through it in hours and it blow off any suggestions?
try using braided steel line
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

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hey yeah i just did a auto to manuel swap and broke the plastic clutch hose so i am trying to figure out what else i can use i tryed a braided rubber line and the brake fluid ate through it in hours and it blow off any suggestions?
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

it took 2 days couse the delivery got messed up and i got my clutch late
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

Hey Marc,

Were you able to get the clutch safety switch to work?

Clutch pedal has two switches, one back (safety) and one front, did you put any switches on the front and if you did where did you connect it to? (does your car have cruise control?)

What would you say was the toughest part? I hear those pedal screws are tough to get to, did you need to lower the steering so you could reach them from the top?
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

ok ill anser your questions in order.
1. the auto shifter has 2 wires that are for safety so it only cranks in park. you can wire those to the safety in the pedel.
2. the hardest part was the 4 pedel screws and i did lower the steering colum (very easy to do). the clutch pedel has like 2 bars that support it put them in place after you tighten the 4 bolts or you will never get to them.
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

One more question.. is the console for auto and manual the same? I opened the console today and seems like brackets that are attached to the console also hold down the auto shifter. ??
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

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ok ill anser your questions in order.
1. the auto shifter has 2 wires that are for safety so it only cranks in park. you can wire those to the safety in the pedel.
2. the hardest part was the 4 pedel screws and i did lower the steering colum (very easy to do). the clutch pedel has like 2 bars that support it put them in place after you tighten the 4 bolts or you will never get to them.
check behind the drivers side kick-panel next to the fuse panel and see if you have the Clutch Safety Switch connector there.
My 88 had the connector for the Clutch Safety Switch tucked back there, so I just unplugged the switch from my friends 88 and plugged it into my 88.
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

What did you do with the cable that goes from auto shifter to steering wheel? Did you remove it from steering wheel or just cut it?
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i just cut it and left it in there for now
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

im going to swap out my 700r4 for a 5 speed manuel. i found a v6 2.8 donor car i got the pedals from. What can i take from it and what do i have to buy? what did you use? And is the dust cover the same on the bell housing?

I also have a v8 in the car now. thanks in advance
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

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im going to swap out my 700r4 for a 5 speed manuel. i found a v6 2.8 donor car i got the pedals from. What can i take from it and what do i have to buy? what did you use? And is the dust cover the same on the bell housing?

I also have a v8 in the car now. thanks in advance
i have a 5 speed from a 2.8 hooked on to my 350 it took me about a week to work out all the bugs. i had to get a adapter flywheel from jegs to connect my larger crank shaft bolt pattern to the pressure plate maybe it was just cause i had an older motor on there. oh and an adapter for the clutch plate because the v6 trannys use a 14 spline shaft and the v8s use the 26 spline shaft. witch cost i think 90.00 . and you will need to cut a whole in the fire wall for the master cylander luckaly there is a pattern in the rubber matt right under where the stearing colum bolts to the firewall. i disassembled the brake booster to do this. you have to unbolt the brake booster anyway to install the new clutch pedals.oh and now it works great i am most pleased with the out come oh and the v6s are geared lower so you feel like you change something for the better if you need any more info i will help if i can oh and get every thing you can EVERYTHING i was missing alot. good luck tell me how it goes
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

hi, you got a clutch disc to fit the 14 spline count on the v6 t5...and use a v8 pressure plate and flywheel....part numbers from jegs?
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well sorry i guess my memory does not serve me well it was summit and i think i bought the 10.5in disc part#add-716104 cost:121.95 made by advance adapters they have an 11in as well part#add-716102 cost:157.95. i could not find one so i searched under s10 adapters. and i have headers and they burned my clutch hose so it took me a long time to locate adapters for our slave and master cyilanders to connect to a -3an fitting made by russell performance part number 640281 cost:21.99 and then i went on ebay and bought a -3an 18in clutch hose for ten bucks . oh and those adapters have a little lip on the bottom that i just barely ground off so they would fit right i ruined a few roll pins before i got it right and you have to install them with the master and slave out on a work bench so put them on before install. all pretty easy if you have do the right stuff in the right order
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

i am currently working on my swap and im about to put in the pedals and clutch hydro parts and i was wondering how you find the location on the firewall to drill the hole?
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

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i am currently working on my swap and im about to put in the pedals and clutch hydro parts and i was wondering how you find the location on the firewall to drill the hole?
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I have some add'l information on that issue (fairly in depth IMO), covered in my T5 swap thread:

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thanks that was exactly what i was looking for. now i just need the rain to stop so i can get out and get working
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

Hi everyone, I'm new to this sight and still can't figure it out but I'm doing a swap on my 83 trans am and wanna know if I need to mess with the computer when or after I hook up the clutch wires. Since it was an auto before how do I let the computer know not to start er up un less the clutch is on the floor? and also how in the hell do I bleed the hydraulic ?!?!?! HELPHELPHELP (700r4 to a t5) (originally a 305 now a 350)
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

do you have a complete list of all the tools you used? Even though you probably wouldn't recommend a beginner to take on a project like this?
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

actually a better question would be do you guys think itd be better to buy an auto and swap it or just keep searching for a good manual? Ive come across pretty good auto Camaros but I cant find many manuals. If I got an auto for the prices ive seen I'd have maybe about $1k left over to put into the car
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

i have a 1991 firebird that i have recently turned into a drag car..these cars came with the 700r4 transmissions and i was wondering if i can bolt a turbo350 transmission and it still fit..also will my stock torque arm work with this or do i need to buy a new weird crossmember..and wich crossmember is that
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i took out the stock engine and pute a chevy 355 in and want to use a turbo 350 will the turbo350 work on the crossmember?
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the torque arm is held in by a braket on the the trans tail shaft but the t350 dosnt have it. the tail shafts might be able to be changed but other wise you gotta change the cross member
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

I know this questions probably answered but I'm 16 and I'm buying my brother's 86 Iroc-Z off of him. I just want to know what parts I need to convert from auto to manual. And which transmission and parts are best and the most affordable for a kid like me. Any replies would be appreciated
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

I am doing a t5 swap in my 82 z28,I have a 1988 firebird formula donor car for all the parts,my 82 has a 700r4 tranny in it now,someone told me that I have to use a steering colume for a standard trans.is that true?I would love to keep my stock one in place.hope you can help.Ross
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

[QUOTE=marc12321;4618957]Just completed my auto to manuel swap in my 1987 camaro. took only 2 days in my driveway. any questions on it your free to

is it possible to swap the 700r4 trans in my 91 firebird 3.1 v6 to a manual? What trans will work? Would a older t56 work?
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You can use a t5
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Re: Auto to Manual swap

What speed sensor did you use for the T56? I (well my mechanic) swapped my 700R4 (1991 RS) for a T56 and the speedometer has been all over the place. I called Hawks and they said I need the $300 ELECTRONIC TO MECHANICAL SPEEDOMETER BOX, GM CLIP ON STYLE box. I don't understand that as my speedometer was electronic to begin with, the 700R4 didn't have a mechanical cable to the electronic speedometer.

What am I missing?
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If your speedometer is electric, then you just need this

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.c...rod/prd126.htm
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