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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED HELP.

ANYONE DONE AXLE BEARING / SEAL AND/OR PINION SEAL REPLACE ON BW 9 BOLT REAR END ???? THE BOOK IS NOT CLEAR ON WHAT SPECIAL TOOLS ARE REQUIRED AND HOW TO GET BEARINGS AND SEALS OFF THE AXLES . HELP.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

Tips/Tricks for Installing Axles, Bearings, Seals

It was under the sticky at the top of this forum. Has pictures and everything.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

THE HOW - TO IS FOR THE C-CLIP TYPE AXLES WITH BEARINGS IN THE HOUSING. BW 9 BOLT HAS BEARINGS PRESSED ON AXLES WITH INNER RETAINERS THAT MUST BE DESTROYED IN ORDER TO REPLACE BEARINGS AND SEALS. THE BOOK I HAVE IS NOT TOO CLEAR ON WTF TO DO.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

That only covers the 10 bolt. The 9 bolt has completely different axle bearings. The 9 bolt has the bearings pressed on the axles. The axles will have to be removed and taken to a shop where the bearings can be pressed off and new bearings pressed on. The right and left bearings and seals are not the same, so you will need to get the correct bearings. The axles are held in by the bolts that hold the caliper brackes on.

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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

I GOT THE AXLES OUT. ONE SIDE LOOKS LIKE ITS BEEN LEAKING. THE BEARINGS SPIN/LOOK OK. THE BOOK I HAVE SUKS. I FIGURED GOOD IDEA TO REPLACE SEALS BEFORE I PUT THE REAR END BACK ON THE CAR. ANYBODY DONE FRONT SEAL ON BW 9 BOLT ? IS IT MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO TAKE AXLES TO SHOP FOR SEALS ?
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

I have rebuilt the 9 bolt rear ends before. Changing the pinion seal is no different from changing the pinion seal on other GM rear ends.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

DO I NEED ALOT OF SPECIAL TOOLS FOR FRONT SEAL CHANGE ?
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

Replacing the pinion seal is the same as almost every other rear end, gm or otherwise.
I usually count the threads, and put a mark on diff yoke nut, so it can be reinstalled to about the same torque.
Pull the big nut off the center of the axle yoke, remove the yoke and use a seal puller or large screwdriver to remove the seal. Tap new seal in till its flush, and reinstall yoke.

The axleshaft bearings and seals can be done if you have a press. If not, take it to a machine shop and have them do it.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

I didnt know that 9 bolt axles are semi-float. I have a press, but it is not big enough for that, buy the correct bearings/seals for your axle shafts and pay a machine shop to press them on and off.

The pinion seal is easy. All you need is a 1/2" drive torque wrench to retorque the pinion nut. Oh and the socket for the pinion nut.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

IVE GOT A PRETTY BIG ARBOR PRESS I GOT FROM AN OLD AIRCRAFT WHEEL TIRE/ SHOP THAT MY JET ENGINE SHOP WAS NEXT TOO. I DONT HAVE THE DRIVERS AND/OR PULLERS I ASSUME I NEED TO GET THE AXLE BEARINGS ON/OFF. THE PRESS WORKS LIKE A CHAMP FOR WHEEL STUD REMOVAL AND INSTALLS.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

IS THERE A TRICK TO KEEPING EVERYTHING FROM TURNING WHEN REMOVING / TIGHTENING PINION NUT WHEN THE AXLES ARE OUT ?? THE BOOK SHOWS ANOTHER SPECIAL TOOL...
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

THE BOOK SAYS TO BREAK THE INNER RETAINER WITH A CHISEL. WTF ??!!
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

Yes to all of that. In a pinch I have used a large pipe wrench on the yoke, but it tears them up. I made a tool to hold the yoke through the bolt holes with a long extention.

There is a ring that holds the bearing on the axle, the only way to get it off is to partially cut through it and then break it open with a chisel. Be careful when cutting the ring so you dont nick the axle shaft.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

WHERE DO I GET A NEW BEARING RING ? IM NOT SEEING ANY INCLUDED WITH THE SEAL KITS.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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Car: 90 IROC 5.7 1LE CLONE 89 GTA 88IROC
Engine: 5.7TPI / 5.7TPI/ 5.7TPI/ 4.3 CMFI
Transmission: 700R4 UPGRADED 700R4STOCK700R4STOCK
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 BOLT 3.27 9 BOLT 2.77 9BOLT
Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

IT LOOKS LIKE THE INNER RING COMES WITH A NEW BEARING. DAMN. DONT NEED NEW BEARINGS.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

You can't change the seal without changing the bearing too. You will destroy the bearing when you try to get it off. There's no way around it.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

how do you get the axles out of the rear end ?
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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Re: BW 9 BOLT 7.75" 2.77 RATIO NOT SURE HOW TO REPLACE AXLE BEARINGS + SEALS . NEED H

Originally Posted by DRIVE2FAST
IT LOOKS LIKE THE INNER RING COMES WITH A NEW BEARING. DAMN. DONT NEED NEW BEARINGS.
Please take your caps lock button off. No need to yell at us. thank you
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