tv cable swap problem.
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Car: 1992 Camaro Z28
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tv cable swap problem.
ive had it up to HERE with the TV cable and bracket. i swichted from a TPI to a carbed car with a 700r4 tranny. edelbrock carb.
i have edelbrock 8036 bracket
and a TBI factory TV cable.
--the TPI one was too long so EVERYONE on this forum told me just to get a TBI one that came factory on a camaro 700r4 tranny.
i did this,
i also ordered the TCI geo connector. its not in yet but on route.
this is my problem so i installed the cable but i feel like there is not enough slack on the cable(to short) the picture below is all the slack i have and it bearly connects to the stud on carb with out any accelration. when i step on the gas that means that wire has to pull further. my question is it sappost to be THAT TIGHT
the picture below is my pulling the cable, i feel alot of tension, if i pull anymore i feel like its going to break. i dont think its sappost to be that tight. please help me...im begging you.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT
the only thing that dawns on me is that cable is for a 305, but i now have a 350, i dont think that makes a diff, same size block from the bellhousing
i have edelbrock 8036 bracket
and a TBI factory TV cable.
--the TPI one was too long so EVERYONE on this forum told me just to get a TBI one that came factory on a camaro 700r4 tranny.
i did this,
i also ordered the TCI geo connector. its not in yet but on route.
this is my problem so i installed the cable but i feel like there is not enough slack on the cable(to short) the picture below is all the slack i have and it bearly connects to the stud on carb with out any accelration. when i step on the gas that means that wire has to pull further. my question is it sappost to be THAT TIGHT
the picture below is my pulling the cable, i feel alot of tension, if i pull anymore i feel like its going to break. i dont think its sappost to be that tight. please help me...im begging you.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT
the only thing that dawns on me is that cable is for a 305, but i now have a 350, i dont think that makes a diff, same size block from the bellhousing
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Car: 1992 RS
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
The geometry corrector will fix some of this. It's L shaped - so it closes some of the gap between the linkage and the cable bracket.
It does pull very tight on my car. But then again, when I was TBI, it pulled very tight also.
I used a very similar (if not the same) Edelbrock bracket (mine is chrome) - I seem to remember drilling an extra set of holes, slightly forward, so that I could move the TV cable just a bit farther forward as well (so that the cable didn't pull quite so hard). I seem to remember that without moving the TV cable part of the bracket forward a bit (like 1/2 inch), that I couldn't even get my TV cable to connect even with the geometry corrector.
I'm going out to look now and see if I'm remembering correctly - I'll update what I see here in a bit.
It does pull very tight on my car. But then again, when I was TBI, it pulled very tight also.
I used a very similar (if not the same) Edelbrock bracket (mine is chrome) - I seem to remember drilling an extra set of holes, slightly forward, so that I could move the TV cable just a bit farther forward as well (so that the cable didn't pull quite so hard). I seem to remember that without moving the TV cable part of the bracket forward a bit (like 1/2 inch), that I couldn't even get my TV cable to connect even with the geometry corrector.
I'm going out to look now and see if I'm remembering correctly - I'll update what I see here in a bit.
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
thank you soo much.. for response..
--i was thinking the same thing about the bracket hence it is so far back on manifold. the only think that stops me from doing that is the metal cable inside that black housing is still the same lenghth, when moving the plastic housing, that just means less would come out the top correct?????
- when i pull on it i feel it moving the tranny, so i dont think thats the issue, but i mean its really tight, even with out the geo connector i think it should still hook up, i feel if i hook it up now and push the pedel down, its gonna snap it.
and if it doesnt, that means there is no way to adjust it??? because the black piece that comes out for maximum tv.. is all the way out so it could connect, there is no way to push it back in for the adjustment......just seems too short...im kinda pissed that cable was A BITCH to install without a lift. took me forever.
but maybe it is the bracket???????? i just dont see how. makes sense but the cable is will still be same length inside...i know i have slack for the black housing. im confused
--i was thinking the same thing about the bracket hence it is so far back on manifold. the only think that stops me from doing that is the metal cable inside that black housing is still the same lenghth, when moving the plastic housing, that just means less would come out the top correct?????
- when i pull on it i feel it moving the tranny, so i dont think thats the issue, but i mean its really tight, even with out the geo connector i think it should still hook up, i feel if i hook it up now and push the pedel down, its gonna snap it.
and if it doesnt, that means there is no way to adjust it??? because the black piece that comes out for maximum tv.. is all the way out so it could connect, there is no way to push it back in for the adjustment......just seems too short...im kinda pissed that cable was A BITCH to install without a lift. took me forever.
but maybe it is the bracket???????? i just dont see how. makes sense but the cable is will still be same length inside...i know i have slack for the black housing. im confused
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
OK - The bracket I used was the Edelbrock 8030: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-8030/ It's a bit different, but basically same I think. I did have to drill 2 extra holes in the EDL-8030 bracket for the TV cable part - to move the TV cable housing forward about 1/2 inch or so.
Below 2 pics.
In the first, you can see my EDL-8030, and where I drilled the new holes slightly forward. The red outline shows the bracket, the green outlines show where the original holes were at, and you can see where my new holes are (where my little bolts are at).
Second pic is the geometry corrector - you can see how it's "L" shaped and thus brings the linkage about 1/2 inch closer to the throttle bracket, thus removing some tension as well.
Hope that helps you some, and eases your mind a bit. It seems that none of this stuff is absolutely perfect, and you have to "tweak" everything just a tad. I remember trying the Spectre bracket, and although I didnt have to modify it, it was flimsy and bent under the pressure of the TV bracket (so it really didn't do it's job that well for me). That's when I decided to try the nice beefy chrome EDL-8030 - it didn't bend any, but as noted I did have to drill new holes to get the TV cable close enough to even reach the linkage.
BTW - I've had this setup now 4 years with no issues, tranny is as good as day I installed, shifts are great. So - keep in mind that you just have to use your better judgement, tweak a tad here and there, and all will be good - as long as the TV cable is "pretty damn close". I always worried that it had to be "perfect" - it's critical for it to be close, but nothing in this world is absolutely perfect. Good Luck!
Below 2 pics.
In the first, you can see my EDL-8030, and where I drilled the new holes slightly forward. The red outline shows the bracket, the green outlines show where the original holes were at, and you can see where my new holes are (where my little bolts are at).
Second pic is the geometry corrector - you can see how it's "L" shaped and thus brings the linkage about 1/2 inch closer to the throttle bracket, thus removing some tension as well.
Hope that helps you some, and eases your mind a bit. It seems that none of this stuff is absolutely perfect, and you have to "tweak" everything just a tad. I remember trying the Spectre bracket, and although I didnt have to modify it, it was flimsy and bent under the pressure of the TV bracket (so it really didn't do it's job that well for me). That's when I decided to try the nice beefy chrome EDL-8030 - it didn't bend any, but as noted I did have to drill new holes to get the TV cable close enough to even reach the linkage.
BTW - I've had this setup now 4 years with no issues, tranny is as good as day I installed, shifts are great. So - keep in mind that you just have to use your better judgement, tweak a tad here and there, and all will be good - as long as the TV cable is "pretty damn close". I always worried that it had to be "perfect" - it's critical for it to be close, but nothing in this world is absolutely perfect. Good Luck!
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
Oh yeah - TV cable is not easy - even with a lift. Since it's on the top of the tranny, you can't see up in there - you have to "feel" your way to get it installed on the tranny end.
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
Oh, and yes, there is quite alot of pressure on the cable - I always thought it would break as well, but it's all good.
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
yea i just took of the bracket and it does to apear it will fit...still alittle tight though...but i heard of people having this setup with out drilling...weird...
your bracket is the same exact as mine just crome mine is nickle.
only question is my backets face the outside....how comes your are in the inside???????? for the tv cable
your bracket is the same exact as mine just crome mine is nickle.
only question is my backets face the outside....how comes your are in the inside???????? for the tv cable
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
Maybe I did it wrong? I don't know, made sense at the time the way I installed it, and it seems to work - as I said it's been this way 4 years now.
{BTW - I noticed it too when I looked at your pic vs. mine, but I was hoping that you wouldn't ask }
{BTW - I noticed it too when I looked at your pic vs. mine, but I was hoping that you wouldn't ask }
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
yeah so im going to take that bracket out and drill the hole...i dont think the wholes matter that much as long as it links? is it possible for my to make them too far?
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
Older post, but few questions. I have pretty much same bracket, but I have qjet carb. Problem? Also I have mine to inside as camaronewbie. My tv cable is running a good line to carb. My throttle cable is at slight angle. But like the OP siad it is really tight. But my cocern or question, is it ok for qjet
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Re: tv cable swap problem.
Linkage also?? That is my main concern. I had to drill adaper so I could slide tv cable forward. Now I have enough play. My throttle cable is at a bit of an angle, but I don't think I should be as concerned??
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