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Old 02-10-2014, 04:27 PM
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4L60E in an 82 Z28

ok so hopefully someone can help me. I've got a 4L60E from a 99 blazer with 4wd and it has a 6 bolt tail housing. Now my issue is that i need a mechanical speedo for my dash but the computer im using is the ez tcu from TCI and it needs a VSS. the housings i can find that are 6 bolt all only have the VSS opening and the 4 bolt housings from older models have the mechanical speedo. Does anyone know of an inexpensive way to be able to install both the vss and the mechanical speedo? I have the trans apart already and am being rushed to get it put back together. Any ideas?
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

Speed Scene Wiring has a tailshaft conversion for the 98 up 4L60E.It ain't cheap tho.$670. http://www.speedscenewiring.com/ssw_.../1998-up-4l60e You woulda came out a lot better just using a 700R4 or @ least using a 2wd trans.Good Luck.
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You can't use it.

Trade it for something you CAN use. Shouldn't be too hard. Prolly even, an even swap.
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I got the trans for 25 only needed a sun shell
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You need the 2wd output shaft and tail housing. Mine from an s10 had a broken sun shell also.
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You need the 2wd output shaft and tail housing. Mine from an s10 had a broken sun shell also.
I know but my issue was having mechanical speedo and a vss as well.
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Well, nothing stock unfortunately. I swear their is a site that sells a kit to do what you want. If I could remember the name it would be helpful. Later on this evening I'll try to take a peak and add a link. Lol how are you controlling the shifting?
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

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Well, nothing stock unfortunately. I swear their is a site that sells a kit to do what you want. If I could remember the name it would be helpful. Later on this evening I'll try to take a peak and add a link. Lol how are you controlling the shifting?
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/tci-302820
This is the controller I'm using
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So trade it for a trans you can use.

Why spend $500 to graunch a foreign trans in your car, when you can get the right thing for free? (scuze me for making common sense, it's one of my character flaws)
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I totally agree with sofa, sell this trans that is 100% wrong for your application and buy the correct one. By the time you buy the controller and everything else you'll need you could have bought the correct trans twice over...
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Don't forget the paddle shifters.

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So trade it for a trans you can use.

Why spend $500 to graunch a foreign trans in your car, when you can get the right thing for free? (scuze me for making common sense, it's one of my character flaws)
The controller is no big deal because I have one from someone else already. Either way I'd have to buy a different trans. I got this one for 25 bucks so that's no big deal. If I put 500 in parts to rebuild it so be it. If I went and bought a different trans for a couple hundred, no matter what I'm rebuilding it because I'd want a fresh trans in my car. So tell me what makes sense. ( excuse me for not giving you every detail that's my character flaw)
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

it's not just the speedo issue you are facing with that transmission. if you go with a 1 piece case 4l60e, the mount is in the same place as a 700r4 which means there is a factory crossmember to use for the car. also, the one piece case 4l60e's have a 4 bolt tail housing so you can use earlier housings with the large speedo opening if needed.

however, i do believe PATC sells an adaptor to convert the 6 bolt to 4 bolt. not sure how it would further impact the mounting point but it is over $200 according to their site
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it's not just the speedo issue you are facing with that transmission. if you go with a 1 piece case 4l60e, the mount is in the same place as a 700r4 which means there is a factory crossmember to use for the car. also, the one piece case 4l60e's have a 4 bolt tail housing so you can use earlier housings with the large speedo opening if needed.

however, i do believe PATC sells an adaptor to convert the 6 bolt to 4 bolt. not sure how it would further impact the mounting point but it is over $200 according to their site
Cool thanks. I was probably going to go with a UMI crossmember anyway with the torque arm attachment on it instead of the tail housing.

I found this attachment that I could use and get a 4 bolt housing with the mechanical speedo

http://www.advanceadapters.com/produ...onadapter-kit/

Thanks, Chris.
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That's the site I was looking for. Beat me to the punch for the op.
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

The adapter isn't the problem.

It's the E in the transmission name.

Your car lacks the control system for it. Your car is incapable of telling it what gear to be in. It cannot shift without the controls. (electronics ... Hence, "E")

It will not work in your car without spending more than just getting the right transmission will cost.

Trade the transmission you CAN'T use for one that will work in your car.
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

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The adapter isn't the problem.

It's the E in the transmission name.

Your car lacks the control system for it. Your car is incapable of telling it what gear to be in. It cannot shift without the controls. (electronics ... Hence, "E")

It will not work in your car without spending more than just getting the right transmission will cost.

Trade the transmission you CAN'T use for one that will work in your car.
That's why I have the CONTROLLER
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

It appears he has a controller.I'm not specifically experienced with the TCI unit,but,for auto operation,your gonna also need all the outputs & inputs from the engine,in particular'since your running carb,you will need to mount a TPS(throttle position sensor)to your carb.You will also need to various switches & outputs to control converter lockup.That's not to mention an almost complete trans teardown to swap all the needed parts.Sounds like a lotta money & work to me!ut,if you got plenty of both of those,go for it.Sounds overly complicated to me tho for no real gain vs just using the rite trans.
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

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It appears he has a controller.I'm not specifically experienced with the TCI unit,but,for auto operation,your gonna also need all the outputs & inputs from the engine,in particular'since your running carb,you will need to mount a TPS(throttle position sensor)to your carb.You will also need to various switches & outputs to control converter lockup.That's not to mention an almost complete trans teardown to swap all the needed parts.Sounds like a lotta money & work to me!ut,if you got plenty of both of those,go for it.Sounds overly complicated to me tho for no real gain vs just using the rite trans.
I have the tps and I'll just put it in place of the current tv cable on the carb. and I'm already in the process of the trans tear down because it needed a sun shell. I do understand it's more work but i already have the parts needed but at the same time I'm on the debate on selling everything on ebay and find 700r4 to rebuild. On the otherhand, The time isn't an issue to me because I thoroughly enjoy doing things like this and since I already have the stuff I may as well use what I have
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

Consider maybe rebuilding what you have as is & possibly trading for a 2wd 700R4.I bet it wouldn't be hard to find a swap.I bet there are plenty of ppl w/ a 2wd that need a 4wd.I think before it's over,you're end up with a lot more in this than it's worth.There are more reasonable controllers out there also than that TCI.Look @ MegaShift(same co as Mega Squirt) & U.S. Controllers.
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

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Don't forget the paddle shifters.

Originally Posted by 82_Camaro
Cool thanks. I was probably going to go with a UMI crossmember anyway with the torque arm attachment on it instead of the tail housing.

I found this attachment that I could use and get a 4 bolt housing with the mechanical speedo

http://www.advanceadapters.com/produ...onadapter-kit/
It's not that simple. You need to clarify the function of that kit a bit more for yourself.

That adapter is for going in between a transfer case and a 700-R4 4-bolt case. In your case, the adapter + a 4 bolt 2WD tailhousing isn't the same length as a 2WD 6-bolt tailhousing, even if you have the 2WD output (I'm not sure if you have that in your rebuild plans yet.) And the speedo gear won't have a given place to be located (a surmountable problem)

A 2wd output shaft and this are what you need: http://speedscenewiring.com/ssw_zen/...conversion-kit (link posted up above didn't work) to have mechanical speedo and VSS.

Yeah, $300+ differences in "what I think I can do this for" vs. "what I really need to do this" suck. Such is reality.
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

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It's not that simple. You need to clarify the function of that kit a bit more for yourself.

That adapter is for going in between a transfer case and a 700-R4 4-bolt case. In your case, the adapter + a 4 bolt 2WD tailhousing isn't the same length as a 2WD 6-bolt tailhousing, even if you have the 2WD output (I'm not sure if you have that in your rebuild plans yet.) And the speedo gear won't have a given place to be located (a surmountable problem)

A 2wd output shaft and this are what you need: http://speedscenewiring.com/ssw_zen/...conversion-kit (link posted up above didn't work) to have mechanical speedo and VSS.

Yeah, $300+ differences in "what I think I can do this for" vs. "what I really need to do this" suck. Such is reality.
i understand where your going with that. I'm probably not going to use my drive shaft for this application, would i be able to use my current drive shaft if i were to use a 700r4? what about my crossmember and torque arm?
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

No.

There are two stock torque arms and 2 bracket bushings for 700/T5. The late third gen ones are the same as 4th gen. The shorter T10/th200-c/ saginaw cars got longer arms and driveashafts.
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Re: 4L60E in an 82 Z28

Cheapest way to get a mechanical speedo working with an electronic VSS is to use a cable driver box such as Cable-X, but thats another $300. Since 700R4s in working order go for less than half that, I agree with just about everyone in this thread, you should pick a different trans
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