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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

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I bought a 10 bolt rear end from an old dude that he pulled from his 51 Chevy car. he claims it's posi trac but i don't know for sure. I honestly don't care either.

I am trying to figure out how to connect the emergency brake of my 54 Chevy car to this rear end. Please see pictures. Is this e brake arm properly attached and oriented on the axle? If so, that means the ebrake has to be "pushed" to activate rather than "pulled" to activate it. That doesn't seem right to me.

Your expert advice would be appreciated.
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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 05:08 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

I would appreciate some guidance on this
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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 09:31 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Why the F&^* are we expected to know jack about 50s Chevy brake systems? This is a site for 82-92 Firebirds & Camaros, cars that weren't even thought of when this 50s Chevy was designed. They might have changed the design in 3 decades, I'd suggest going elsewhere.
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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 10:02 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

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Why the F&^* are we expected to know jack about 50s Chevy brake systems? This is a site for 82-92 Firebirds & Camaros, cars that weren't even thought of when this 50s Chevy was designed. They might have changed the design in 3 decades, I'd suggest going elsewhere.
Be that as it may this is NOT the attitude to be taking in this situation. Act like an adult.

As for the op, a little more info would be appreciated, like for instance what rear we are dealing with and what brakes. Some better pics from slightly further away might help too.

Also I cant tell the orientation but if the pics are from the rear of the axle they make sence. The cables wrap around the axle then to the levers and pull from there. There would be another bracket I lnvolved to hold the cable before it attaches to the axle.

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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 10:12 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Originally Posted by Formula 305
Why the F&^* are we expected to know jack about 50s Chevy brake systems? This is a site for 82-92 Firebirds & Camaros, cars that weren't even thought of when this 50s Chevy was designed. They might have changed the design in 3 decades, I'd suggest going elsewhere.
Tone it down, the attitude won't help and is NOT wanted here.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 12:11 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Looks like a 9 bolt brake set up to me
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 07:03 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Is this rear end from a 3rd gen Camaro? Are we looking at the front or back side of the rear end?
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Originally Posted by Formula 305
Why the F&^* are we expected to know jack about 50s Chevy brake systems? This is a site for 82-92 Firebirds & Camaros, cars that weren't even thought of when this 50s Chevy was designed. They might have changed the design in 3 decades, I'd suggest going elsewhere.
You should read the post more carefully. The car is a 50s Chevy. THE REAR END IS FROM A 90s Camaro.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Gentlemen
I was told the read end is a 10 bolt. I did count the bolts on the diff cover and there are indeed 10.
The picture are from the back looking forward.
I don't think the calipers are on backwards. From what i was told GM used the same part number caliper for both sides, instead of a left and right caliper and orients them differently between the two sides.

Because i bought the rear end from a guy, who bought the car from a guy who built the 50s Chevy car i referred to, there are a lot of unknowns.

I had found an illustration last night that showed the parking brake cable routing but i can't find it now.
It showed:
The Disc Brake setup, the cables from on top of the rear axle housing. If this is the case and the ebrake should not be PUSHED to engage, maybe that bracket is on the incorrect side?

Could someone with disc brakes int he rear snap a picture of their setup for me?
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 10:41 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

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You should read the post more carefully. The car is a 50s Chevy. THE REAR END IS FROM A 90s Camaro.
I don't see that mentioned in the original post, but the clarification helps. So that'd mean you most likely have a 28 spline, 7.5" 10 bolt with PBR rear disc brakes.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Kind of looks like the older cast iron calipers to me. PBRs are aluminum.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

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Kind of looks like the older cast iron calipers to me. PBRs are aluminum.
Could be, more pictures would certainly help
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

It doesn't really matter if it's a 9 bolt or 10 bolt, it's the early style disc brakes. Aside from being absolute crap, worse than drums, you're missing a few pieces.

The driver's side cable with that caliper setup, hooks around to the caliper from the rear.


But it looks like you're missing the bracket the e-brake cable sleeve clips into. #22 in this diagram.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 05:11 AM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Thanks Drew for posting something helpful rather than trying to start a "fire" the calipers are delco 3548 series I agree they are not the greatest they can work if you use the parking brake every time you park the car.



Photo's of 88 f body caliper &p brake mouting





Gm delco p brake adj procedure<br/>
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 01:21 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Thanks to both of you. Those last two post were helpful. I will worry about upgrading the calipers down the road. I just want to get the car driving at this point. I need to relocate it so that i can work on it more.

I'm use to fabricating parts to make things work with this swap. There seem to be alot of little pieces missing, but the cables are the most important. That will get me going.

How to i determine which Equalizer I need? is that something specific to the car year or the Axle year?
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

I'm gonna order some missing parts from here and there. Thanks for the help. I will update you with how things workout.

One question before i place my order. It's difficult to understand the diagram for the details.

Is there one cable that runs to each caliper on the axle? I understand the rest of the cable routing. It's similar to my 1991 Chevrolet S10 parking brake setup.
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 05:37 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Yes one cable to each wheel. After you clip the front ends in the bracket you can make extension cables to make it to the equaliser. I used a cable splice split long ways to put between the ***** at end of cable crimped it back tight and then a small hose clamp to keep it from spreading open just need to tack weld ***** at each end of the extension cables. Cheap fast and easy to make them work.
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 06:19 PM
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Re: E brake hookup question about rear end - 10 bolt posi trac supposedly.

Originally Posted by daferris
Yes one cable to each wheel. After you clip the front ends in the bracket ....
Which bracket part number in the diagram are you referring to?
I ordered the cable parts and the lever i need. I was gonna run all that and see what i can fabricate from there.

I didn't order any brackets, but if there is an important bracket here and there, please let me know so i can get that ordered too.
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