what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
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Car: 91camaro rs,2014 silverado 5.3L
Engine: 5.7Lcarb,5.3L
Transmission: 700-r4, 6L80
Axle/Gears: strange 3.73's
what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
i am about to get a 9" rear end for my camaro. i cant decide what rear ratio to get. the most i drive it around town is to work sometimes and to local cars and coffee. farthest one way is usually 15 miles. when i take it to the track it is on a trailer. not much highway driving at all. here are the details:
gen 1 350 non roller (around 400 hp to the wheels at 6200 rpm)
700r4 trans with yank 3600 stall converter.
cam specs- comp cams 12-246-3 (intake at 050 lift-230, exhaust 236)
car weighs around 3300 with me in it
255-50-16 tires
if you want any other specs let me know
current rear is the stock 10 bolt with a limited slip, 3.73 gears
i cant decide between 3.7, 3.89, 3.91 or 4.11
gen 1 350 non roller (around 400 hp to the wheels at 6200 rpm)
700r4 trans with yank 3600 stall converter.
cam specs- comp cams 12-246-3 (intake at 050 lift-230, exhaust 236)
car weighs around 3300 with me in it
255-50-16 tires
if you want any other specs let me know
current rear is the stock 10 bolt with a limited slip, 3.73 gears
i cant decide between 3.7, 3.89, 3.91 or 4.11
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
considering the stall speed of yer convertor, and that you have an od trans, no highway??? I'd go as steep as you can. the nice thing about the 9" is that all you have to do if you don't like it is buy a pumpkin.... if u had a bit more motor 4 n a halfs….
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
4.11 if more strip and you dont plan to spray.
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
no plans to spray. or any power adder for that matter
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
I've used a built 700R4 with 3.91's and 3000 stall, no drag racing, just liked to go fast... If you are not "speeding" on the highway a 4.11 might even be a bit tall for you, especially if you want to drag race it. Also use a custom 3000 stall behind a TH400 with 3.75's, works great for cruising...
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Car: 91 Firebird Formula
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
id run 4.11s with that set up. its whats in mine and I love them. also a very similar combo. 383 with that cam, through a 700r4 with a yank 700r4. car traps at 115mph right around 6k on a 28" tall tire. I drive the car on a stock tire size turn about 2k at 60mph. 2800 at 80.
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
91 camaro racer - have you taken your car to the track before?
What et and mph?
Gear it for that.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/calc-gear-tire-rpm-mph.php
Use this calc to figure it out
What et and mph?
Gear it for that.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/calc-gear-tire-rpm-mph.php
Use this calc to figure it out
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From: Fairfield, CA
Car: 91camaro rs,2014 silverado 5.3L
Engine: 5.7Lcarb,5.3L
Transmission: 700-r4, 6L80
Axle/Gears: strange 3.73's
Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
91 camaro racer - have you taken your car to the track before?
What et and mph?
Gear it for that.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/calc-gear-tire-rpm-mph.php
Use this calc to figure it out
What et and mph?
Gear it for that.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/calc-gear-tire-rpm-mph.php
Use this calc to figure it out
hopefully i will be heading back to the track soon and will have some updated numbers.
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
@6200, assuming 7% converter slip, this is top end speeds (in 3rd gear)
4.11 is 109mph
3.91 is 114.6mph
3.89 is 115.2mph
3.7 is 121mph
Hope this helps you decide.
4.11 is 109mph
3.91 is 114.6mph
3.89 is 115.2mph
3.7 is 121mph
Hope this helps you decide.
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
finally got to go to the track.60 foot was horrible but, ran a best of 13.44 @ 107.88 mph. so if i went to 4.11's i would pretty much be maxed out with no room for faster speed. but i would have quicker acceleration and should still run faster right? i was crossing the stripe at about 5600 rpm with the 3.73's.
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From: Manitoba
Car: '91 GTA
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Axle/Gears: Ford 9" with 3.89
Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
You could go with a taller tire, instead of gears.
A steeper gear will have a better 60ft and ET(provided traction isn't a problem), but the mph(indicative of HP), usually doesn't change much.
Why couldn't you go WOT off the line?
You using a trans brake?
A steeper gear will have a better 60ft and ET(provided traction isn't a problem), but the mph(indicative of HP), usually doesn't change much.
Why couldn't you go WOT off the line?
You using a trans brake?
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Car: 91camaro rs,2014 silverado 5.3L
Engine: 5.7Lcarb,5.3L
Transmission: 700-r4, 6L80
Axle/Gears: strange 3.73's
Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
with 28" tires it would be 5807
i could have gone WOT off the line but i didnt want to spin, i knew i would only get a few runs in so i was being overly conservative with the starts. no trans brake. only foot braking it.
i am probably over thinking the whole rear gear decision. have only changed gear ratios once when i went from 2.73 to the current 3.73's. i got 3.73 because the car was still a daily. now it is track with some random cars and coffee meets. i trailer it to the track.
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Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
I think the 10 bolt will be okay if it was healthy in the first place. Maybe slap one of those structural covers on it.
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Car: 91camaro rs,2014 silverado 5.3L
Engine: 5.7Lcarb,5.3L
Transmission: 700-r4, 6L80
Axle/Gears: strange 3.73's
Re: what 9" rear gear to use, more strip than street
if i keep the 10 bolt that would save a lot of money! i guess the worst thing is, if it breaks i end up putting a 9" in it anyway.
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