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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 12:53 PM
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700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

Hello All,
After 2-3 months finally just get to start driving again. So I take off in 1st gear up to 15 mph "Punch it" ROAR... get to
4500 yellow no shift
5000 red no shift!
Take my foot off gas it casually shifts normally. Hmmm my preivous1985 always shifted in 4500 yellow. Keep driving Trans is shifting fine. Later try again get up to 10-15 mph punch it ROAR...
4500 yellow No shift,
Then 5000 Red No Shift,
Next 5500 Red No Shift!
Let off the Gas it casually shifts normally. The Trans and all gears feel strong Tran fluid Ruby red it was a one owner woman. I'm not punching it anymore 113,ooo mile
I just wanted to test it out. Any thought on why it won't shift in 1st under the gun but does under normal driving?

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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 01:27 PM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

There are quite a few threads on properly adjusting the TV cable. That's where I would start. If the cable is properly adjusted, the next place to look would be the governor, which is a bit more difficult to access.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 05:14 PM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

The most popular video available on how to 700r4 is straight up wrong, the real way it should be adjusted is by pushing the button back and sliding in the TV cable as far back into the bracket as it will go, have someone floor the car and you'll hear a few clicks, that is the bracket self adjusting itself. That will give you the bulk adjustment, if it shifts too soon or two late you can fine tune it from there but I wouldn't go more than 2 clicks in each direction or you risk transmission damage, do NOT hold the button down while the throttle is being floored or else you will get an incorrect adjustment that will result in no kickdown and weird shifts (like the videos tells you). There are two ways you can verify the cable being correct or not and that's by either pulling the pan and looking for the TV lever inside and making sure when the gas is floored it is in the valvebody all the way, or you can make sure when the throttle is floored there is absolutely no play in the cable and it is as tight as can be.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:38 PM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

I Appreciate you Thank you !
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:40 PM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

Wow! Thanks For the Extra info I Really Appreciate it. Valuable info would be an understatement !
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 09:08 AM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

Originally Posted by leakyz28
The most popular video available on how to 700r4 is straight up wrong, the real way it should be adjusted is by pushing the button back and sliding in the TV cable as far back into the bracket as it will go, have someone floor the car and you'll hear a few clicks, that is the bracket self adjusting itself. That will give you the bulk adjustment, if it shifts too soon or two late you can fine tune it from there but I wouldn't go more than 2 clicks in each direction or you risk transmission damage, do NOT hold the button down while the throttle is being floored or else you will get an incorrect adjustment that will result in no kickdown and weird shifts (like the videos tells you). There are two ways you can verify the cable being correct or not and that's by either pulling the pan and looking for the TV lever inside and making sure when the gas is floored it is in the valve body all the way, or you can make sure when the throttle is floored there is absolutely no play in the cable and it is as tight as can be.
To highlight what u are saying, - If I push the cable as far back into the button when it is depressed, then release it to lock the cable in that position, then have a 3rd party push the accelerator to the floor, it will adjust properly. I have to assume that the grip of the button will not prevent the cable from adjusting. Correct?
I will be trying your method. I have never heard any clicking. I will used my hearing aids this time.
Tkx for the info. Much appreciated!
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 12:29 PM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

LOL, I have opposite problem, my 305 does not punch when shifted. just makes a lot of noise.
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 10:34 AM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

Originally Posted by leakyz28
The most popular video available on how to 700r4 is straight up wrong, the real way it should be adjusted is by pushing the button back and sliding in the TV cable as far back into the bracket as it will go, have someone floor the car and you'll hear a few clicks, that is the bracket self adjusting itself. That will give you the bulk adjustment, if it shifts too soon or two late you can fine tune it from there but I wouldn't go more than 2 clicks in each direction or you risk transmission damage, do NOT hold the button down while the throttle is being floored or else you will get an incorrect adjustment that will result in no kickdown and weird shifts (like the videos tells you). There are two ways you can verify the cable being correct or not and that's by either pulling the pan and looking for the TV lever inside and making sure when the gas is floored it is in the valvebody all the way, or you can make sure when the throttle is floored there is absolutely no play in the cable and it is as tight as can be.
I tied your suggestions and the 700R4 shifts better. kickdown works well. I still have to adjust the tv cable as the **** 1-2 stays in 1st too long.
Again tkx for the info.
I moved tv cable a little & now shifting working fine for me.

Last edited by 72buickgs; Jun 8, 2024 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Got it shifting correctly today.
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 10:41 AM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

Throttle valve controls downshifts and shift timing. Governor controls upshifts. If the TV cable is adjusted properly and your 1-2 is still late, you may have a sticking governor.
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 11:17 AM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

Hey Ratfink6923
I appreciate your help hope all is going well for you!
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Old Jun 13, 2024 | 05:26 AM
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Re: 700R4 1986 does not shift when punched

Thank you so much for the information.


Edit: My issue is resolved.

Last edited by VanessaParker; Jul 13, 2024 at 02:14 AM.
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