V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

2.8 heads on a 3.1???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 2, 2002 | 07:06 AM
  #1  
DAN_92RS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
From: Monessen PA
Car: 92 camaro RS
Engine: 3.1L v6
Transmission: 700r4
2.8 heads on a 3.1???

i'm not sure but somone told me that if you put 2.8 heads on a 3.1 that it will raise the compression ratio has anyone tried this or know if this is true????????????
Reply
Old May 2, 2002 | 08:01 AM
  #2  
Project: 85 2.8 bird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,461
Likes: 0
From: BFE, MD
Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
Engine: 5.7 / 7.4
Transmission: 6sp / TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.55 posi / 3.23
same cc heads, but depending on the type/year of the 2.8 heads, you might end up w/smaller valves. for higher comp have heads machined on the block side & intake side to keep manifold allignment. Do not have too much removed or you will need custom legnth push rods.
Reply
Old May 2, 2002 | 09:30 AM
  #3  
TomP's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 13,414
Likes: 6
From: Central NJ, USA
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
Yep, the 82-84 2.8 heads have smaller valves.
Reply
Old May 2, 2002 | 05:15 PM
  #4  
loomdog32's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 598
Likes: 0
From: Permian Basin
Car: 82 Camaro Z28
Engine: LU5 - Crossfire 305
Transmission: 200c - 3 Speed Automatic
i could be wrong, but carbed 2.8 (82-84 as tomp said) have small valves.. the mpfi 2.8 and 3.1 got bigger valves (85-92).. and the sfi 3.4 valves have the biggest (93-95) stock valves..
bigger valves = bigger cc = smaller compresion ratio..
smaller valves = smaller cc = higher compression ratio..
Reply
Old May 3, 2002 | 10:49 AM
  #5  
DAN_92RS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
From: Monessen PA
Car: 92 camaro RS
Engine: 3.1L v6
Transmission: 700r4
so higher compression will give me horse power?

and how much power will i get from a new high performance cam and timing chain?



Last edited by DAN_92RS; May 3, 2002 at 10:54 AM.
Reply
Old May 3, 2002 | 10:57 AM
  #6  
Project: 85 2.8 bird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,461
Likes: 0
From: BFE, MD
Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
Engine: 5.7 / 7.4
Transmission: 6sp / TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.55 posi / 3.23
depending on the age of the motor, a little bit more than stock. improve the tranny & suspension, lighten the weight of the vehicle & it will scoot & handle much better.

bigger valves do not neccessarily mean bigger comp ratios, just better flowing heads.
Reply
Old May 3, 2002 | 01:12 PM
  #7  
85f-bird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,028
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis, MO
Car: 85' Firebird (Project), 92' RS
Engine: 2.8L, LS1
Transmission: 700R4, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open , 10 Bolt (ukn)
i'm pretty sure that the valve size doesn't effect the compression ratio, but the combustion chamber size can. This is the reason that if you shave a few thousands off the bottom of your heads you can raise that compression up w/o buying new pistons and whatnot, because it'll make the combustion chamber smaller, and therefore raise the compression, so you can have super high compression while still running large valves. The problem that can be encountered is if things are matched up right, a cam with super intensive lift, with great valve overlap, what would end up hitting the piston when it is approaching TDC (top dead center). Because of that youv'e gotta be careful on your lift, and the pistons you run. I'm thinking that the 3.4L's had dished pistons to clear the valves, but i'm not 100% on that, would have to look into it, i am pretty srue that atleast the DOHC version does. not to sure though. gotta check.
Reply
Old May 3, 2002 | 07:16 PM
  #8  
1991tealRSt-topGuy's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 4,541
Likes: 2
Car: 1991 Corvette Coupe
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4/4L60 same trans different name
yeah and for these motors, better flow is probably more important
Reply
Old May 3, 2002 | 07:27 PM
  #9  
85f-bird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,028
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis, MO
Car: 85' Firebird (Project), 92' RS
Engine: 2.8L, LS1
Transmission: 700R4, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open , 10 Bolt (ukn)
that's definately true enough, if you've got heads that have a valve job including a three angle. Once sayroller rockers are done too, and eh, hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe some porting work on the rest of the head. Then think about decking it to raise the compression up. Running 10.1 won't have much effect on Hp when ur running a very very stock valvetrain.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
92projectcamaro
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
11
Jan 18, 2016 08:00 AM
z28guy134
Engine Swap
1
Sep 1, 2015 11:50 PM
Digs_do_it89
Tech / General Engine
1
Aug 30, 2015 10:24 AM
the_nikfive
DIY PROM
2
Aug 11, 2015 02:46 AM
guy76767
Tech / General Engine
1
Aug 6, 2015 05:58 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:11 AM.