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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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Can a V6 really go fast?

i have this curious question because i do own an 85 camaro... which has a piece of shyt V6....

Can a V6 be modified???
If so, please offer any suggestions cuz my car has a lazy V6
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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sure.. but only o so fast.. and anything beyond a reasonable amount of speed will start to cost you an arm and leg.. and not many people make performance parts for a v6 chevy.. if you see the CHC threads he tried to make performance heads for these cars but bailed out since no one was buying.. so now there isn't any hope.. to replace a v6 with a v8 is too costly too.. my advice is to try to fix up your six.. sell it.. and buy an 8.. you'll be much happier in the long run if performance is what your looking for.. not mention you'll find parts a lot easier.. hey i've got a 6 now.. and i'm already thinking about what to bail out for.. as performance wise this engine isn't going very far.. if it goes very much beyond stock at all..
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 03:05 AM
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how fast do you want it?

Here's a simple equation I use to equate speed of a car.
Speed=money:money=speed
Basically this means if you want a lot of speed in a car, you're going to have to invest a lot of money. You can make just about** any car go fast, all it takes is money. If you really feel like blowing some stock v8's out of the water you can go hog wild and get a cam, 1.6 roller rockers, cold air intake, headers, high flow cat, high flow catback, rebuilt the engine and bore it out .30 over. Port the intake runners and intake and exhaust ports then throw a nice little supercharger kit on it. Don't forget to upgrade the rest of the drivetrain cause all that horsepower and torque will destroy a stock clutch or torque converter. I've heard stories of hopped up v6's pushing 350hp at the rear wheels w/ blowers.
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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Or you can go to the boneyard like Karl (Ked85) did and buy a used 3.4 with low miles on it , swaps right in your car . And Karl is very impressed with it . He even has a tech article on the whole swap thats REALLY good . Karl got his low mileage 3.4 for $900 .
Sure , this is no V8 right , but Karl had a mustang owner (5.0) guy ride with him and he was impressed by the 3.4 .
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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What kind of fast are you talking about? Top speed? Quarter mile? 0-60?
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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KArls 3.4 Swap boogie:
https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/t...apboogie.shtml

My 60* Modding Guide:
http://members.fbody.com/sixtydegree/

btw - Camar_hunter_C will make headers if he gets like a order of like 6 to ten people then he'll make a whole batch at once....
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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if you want a fast 2.8 just do all the mods in my sig and you will be fine.
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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It only takes about 2 years to read that sig . ...Just messing with ya V6camaroman
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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It only takes about 2 years to read that sig . ...Just messing with ya V6camaroman
That is a Long *** sig....
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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That is a Long *** sig....
there should be a maximum length, somebody should tell Dirk to do just that
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 05:08 PM
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dude why does everyone tell me to make my sig shorter mine isnt the longest. ive seen longer on the general tech board. im just telling you guys what mods i have and what mods i want
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by V6camaroman
dude why does everyone tell me to make my sig shorter mine isnt the longest. ive seen longer on the general tech board. im just telling you guys what mods i have and what mods i want
Sorry man , I would not have said anything if I knew it would have caused contreversy , I was just messing with you man .
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 08:08 PM
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I'm surprised no one has brought up the

:hail: 1989 TTA :hail:

(the king of the V6s)

but I guess everyone wants to know about the 60* V6s...I would say they make nice cruising cars....unless you have LOTS of spare cash, it's not really worth heavily modding them...your effort/time/money could be more efficiently spent on a different engine...
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by zer0321
I'm surprised no one has brought up the

:hail: 1989 TTA :hail:

(the king of the V6s)

but I guess everyone wants to know about the 60* V6s...I would say they make nice cruising cars....unless you have LOTS of spare cash, it's not really worth heavily modding them...your effort/time/money could be more efficiently spent on a different engine...
They use to have a guy around here that had one . He ran low 13s I think it was , someone correct me if im wrong .
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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yeh, we've had a few TTA owners on this board, and one guy who swapped a TTA motor into a GTA. Some of the modfied ones were running in the 11's and 12's if memory serves me correct. hmmm, would have to check on that though.


As far as our little 60* motors go, it'll take tons of cash to make them truely fast in say a 1/4 mile of track, or even a 0-60 arena, you can make them quick with relitive ease, but truly fast is definately difficult. From the factory these cars were running in the 17's, which isn't necesarily slow, but it is definately slower than most any v6 car that's on the road today. Gears, cam, exaust, intake, port and polish, should be enough to get you to 0-60 quiker, and through a 1/4 mile of track faster. But then again, it'll most likely be killing your top speed. So, remember most races end at about 40-60 mph anyway, so if that's the type of fast you want, look at peopls sigs, cause most of them have done a good ammount of stuff toget you in that arena.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by 85f-bird
yeh, we've had a few TTA owners on this board, and one guy who swapped a TTA motor into a GTA. Some of the modfied ones were running in the 11's and 12's if memory serves me correct. hmmm, would have to check on that though.


you called?

actually there are 3 of us on this site. Myself, TTA850(who did the swap in his GTA AND owns 3 TTA's,that ****in bastard ) and a new guy, TurboBird, who has an 88 GTA with a GN motor swapped in
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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you called?

actually there are 3 of us on this site. Myself, TTA850(who did the swap in his GTA AND owns 3 TTA's,that ****in bastard ) and a new guy, TurboBird, who has an 88 GTA with a GN motor swapped in
PLEASE tell me that TTA850 did not tear up an original TTA for that swap. (Unless the TTA donor was totaled) I just have a soft spot for third gen models with less than 2000 units made. Of course if you own 3...
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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PLEASE tell me that TTA850 did not tear up an original TTA for that swap. (Unless the TTA donor was totaled) I just have a soft spot for third gen models with less than 2000 units made. Of course if you own 3...
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLL NO!!!!!


he had a spare GN engine and he built that up, he'd NEVER rip apart a TTA like that, NEVER

I've seen all 3 of em, they're too nice to cut up and destroy
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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1989*

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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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1989*

i always thought it was an 88 damn i hate being polish
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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If you're talking about top speed, I've had mine up to about 110mph. helps if weather conditions are good and if car is having a good day (has MAF hiccups occasionally). drivetrain is a 2.8V6 MPFI with T5 transmission. it's all stock with the exception of a replaced water pump which is pretty much stock spec, and a replaced MAF from an 85-86 camaro, stock spec. it's also a daily driver & just passed 143K miles. and NO air dam .. I always have to mention that since there's the overheating debacle.. my car never overheats.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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Making a v6 faster.

I totally agree with 92camaro1. You need lots of dinero to make the 12 valve Chevy 2.8l fast in an Fbody. When I say lots I mean $5000 at the bare minimum. Best thing you can do is do the 3.4l swap or save up for that V8 Fbody. You would really have to love that 2.8 or 3.1 to make it run 13's or lower. You can't get that kind of speed from that engine without a turbocharger or large super charger, all of which would have to be custom fabricated from scratch. The 2.8 is a very unpopular engine in the aftermarket performance world. I only care about improving my 0- 65mph time, engine response, and reliability. I just want my car to do 0-65 in under 7 seconds. I'm saving up for an Alpina tuned BMW. If only our 2.8s were as good as the BMW inline 2.8s then most of us would have little to complain about.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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my brothers old car (91 rs with a 3.1) was a fairly quick car. all that we know that had done to it for sure was flowmasters, its top speed was around 130 and i can personaly voutch for that. very scary but it would do it. im sure the previous owner did other stuff to the engine but we bought it with front end damage from a salvage. it had an aftermarket sun roof, i wanna say american racing? aluminum 5 spoke rims, and the guy he sold it to found the little remotes for the viper alarm system and keyless entry under the passenger side seat when he was cleaning it but it was a very clean little car and i think he was an idiot for every selling it

kolby
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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its top speed was around 130 and i can personaly voutch for that
speed limiter kicks in at around 110ish
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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speed limiter kicks in at around 110ish
Unless you modify the eprom, which is now possible.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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Sure 2.8's are fast, but they're not quick..(hehe)

I think the car would be quicker if it was front wheel drive.
Hp is loss when the power has to travel such a long distance to the rear wheel.
But front-wheel drive handling isn't as good as rear wheel (except on wet roads).

This is just my 2 cents, so don't get any ideas of converting your Camaro to front-wheel drive.

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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 08:04 AM
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I have a 1992 3.1 Liter Firebird, and my speed limiter doesn't kick in until 120 MPH. I have had it there a number of times. When the speedometer just crosses the 120 mark, the limiter kicks in. The earlier cars may have had a different speed limiter MPH.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 11:37 PM
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there you go v6 camaroman that is the big mods there those give you the most speed ;-) I can tell i've been away from here for too damn long This winter I plan to start restoring my 65 olds cutlas convertable with its 370 :-P then in the next year start on a crate 350 then yank out my 484,000 mile 2.8 and mail it to canada to chevy and tell them its still running and will hit 130 no problem and they have a problem because it should have died years ago :-) hahaha
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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