Well first.. Of course the Headers...
Now I finally found a free program to load onto my palm so I can data log.
And now soon I can be offering"Real" Performance chips for both the 165(opps)(82-89) and 7730(90-92) comps. And Thanks to the lack of help from the Prom board here(they gave me the drive to find this mystical program) that took about 5 days tring different search word combinations but finally found it today!.
Ah the drive of the american inventor!.
I have already started to build a little "Black Box" Literally (its black and all) to perminately attach to my Diag Port and then hook to my additional Palm Dock that will also be mounted in that center console "glove box"

So stay tuned folks, Generationxracing is about to strike again!

 

Whut exactly will these chips do? How much will they cost and how much hp u think would gain?

 

these chips will retime your engine, change base feilds, give major HP increase.

HP/TRQ Gain? well put it this way I plan on tuning mine to a Dyno'ed 30-35 ea. gain.

Cost.. Unknown right now. probly 50-75 range. Really just depends on the price I can get for bulk buying of the chips. Buy in 50 or so numbers.

 

Shoot, a bill for a chip, I would be in.

I think CHC will be a company, and have a little banner at the top of this page if you keep up like you are.

 

exactly post a price, and i want one!!

 

First headers, now PROMS, you are the man.


I guess I will be shoping with you again....

 

dude im not trying to ***** you up. but you should realize that a chip tuned for max performance in texas will deliver different results in boston. also the engines will have small changes. the 86-89 v6's use a 2732 eprom with the $3acode in a 12277302 ecm. and without one to work with you wont get aywhere. also i dont think its a good idea to sell chips via off the shelf. i do tune here where i live but i will not sell calbrations to people here at thirdgen.org. id be glad to help you nail yours down.

i dont think with a first time effort even in a reasonable amount of time youll find alot of HP in te 3.1 it done pretty well stock. rethink the position you are about to take.

first this will ostrisize you form the prom board. second for some strange reason the diy-prom board does not appreciate or enjoy for profit tuners. dont ask me why i catch **** over it all the time altough i do not sell my services here. either way its a big difference to do what your about to.

just food for thought.

 

if they work as well as you say i will DEF buy one

 

Would I have to run higher than 87 octane fuel?

 

sh*t, just for the headers, You da man :hail: :hail:

 

If we give him our general location, he will beable to tell air temp, can find out general world elevation. then we tell him what mods have been done to our car, he can tune it a bit better. It will require him to learn, and study alot, but I think he could prob beable to do it. Also, for us to have the abilty to have a chip, add a mod, contact him, send chip back, him retune it, then send it back to us (for a small fee of course). I like that idea, find a company that would modify your chip when you add a new mod.

 

I know there are different comps in different years. I also know that no car will have all themods needed to get the MAX outta the chip. Mine will be tuned to the cat-back, injectors, and the CAI, and ported intake. Mine is obviouslt more advanced then most cars here.
So mine will see more gains. But that does not mean that the chip I tune for mine will not see similar results in the same computer equiped car. And as the motor gets modded, they will see the full benifits of the chip.

I have looked at perelininary data and the "Stock" bin has alot to be desired. I think in all reasonability that I can get what I am aiming for.



The Prom board has helped little to none, so I could basically care less about anyother board besides the V6 one. The oippinions of other rarely matter more then a bird ****ting on my car. It washes right off.
I asked a while back about Palm OS data loggers.. no help.. found one that actually works and they can bite me if they think I will post link to it.

 

CHC, would I have to run higher than 87 octane fuel?
Highest we have here is 91 and its something like $.86 a LITER. Probally close to 3-4 bux American a Gallon.

 

unknown. but I will be running 89/91 in mine when I tune

 

$3-$4 american a gallon??! Christ.... I b*tched about paying $1.40 for 87 octane the other day... I'd say whether you need to upgrade your gas depends on exactly how the chip is tuned, and how your car's running...if the timing is advanced quite a bit, you might start to ping on 87 octane..but from what I've heard, it's a bit different for every car individually..some can handle more timing than others it seems.. And man...that much for 91 octane..I feel your pain...that's insane.

 

By the way CHC, any real preliminary rough guesses on how you're gonna tune the chips? Up the timing a bit? I don't know how the air/fuel mix is on the throttle, but I've heard the car tends to lean the mix out at idle...is that something you can fix? If you can get this chip thing down...then you really are THE MAN. As if the headers weren't good enough!

 

I will. probly spend close to 2-3 months on the chip for my car. Once that is the way I like it I will be able to burn off copies of that.

As far as modifacations go, I plan on tappng just about everything.
Timing, TPS Signal, fuel curve, airflow maps, O2 maps, of course the speed limiter and shift lights(To a more appropriate rpm range), IAT maps. Whatever it takes.

 

Shift lights....argh..wish I had a stick. Too bad you can't change shift POINTS for us auto boys huh? But wow...sounds like these chips are gonna be AWESOME... Wasn't aware there was so much to fiddle with! Whew...

 

I can tanper alittle with the Lock up, thats about it. Shift points are internal control. Only kit will really do that.

 

Can you make the TCC lock up at, say, 50 mph? I really HATE that thing! And yeah I knew that about the shift points...our trannies have no computer controls. Too bad...makes things THAT much harder.......

 

camaro hunter id be gld to help you out. i stated that before.if id have had any idea where to get the palm os logger software i would have posted it. ive never seen it. if you want hel pfine toss me email. but as i said the prom board will ostrizie you. and this will hurt you in the long run. anway i said my peace

 

I have ostrized the Prom board for not helping the V6 guys so... I could care less about them. I will send you links to the software under 1 condition. Do not post send the info to the prom board here. They have severly ticked me off.
I have 3 on my palm now, 1 is freaking great, it can log, and view at the same time. it can compress the file and should be able to get a good 15-20 minute recording run.

 

Nixon1, it's actually better for us that we can tweak the shift points mechanically. I wouldn't want an electronic trans. Putting in a shift kit isn't that hard once you get over the "scared to open my trans" part... I just have the B&M kit (which many people don't like at all, say it ruins their trans), but once I dropped the pan, and dropped the valve body (yipe!!), the kit installation was easy & smooth. Just read the directions over about 50 times before installing the kit.

I've also found that with kits with a large # of parts (like the B&M Megashifter), it helps to grab a ton of little plastic sandwich bags, a marker, and a highlighter. Read thru the instructions. When you get to a step that requires some parts, put those parts in a bag, seal the bag, label the bag "STEP NUMBER ??" with the marker, and highlight the STEP #?? in the instructions. This way you're not crawling all over the garage trying to grab an e-clip. You just grab the bag you need and go.

 

Thats actually one of the best Ideas I have heard for that in a very long time!