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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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Bad Timing Chain!!! Pics Inside.

For the ones wondering. Here is what 139,970.6 miles of hard driving does to a timing chain on a 1993 2.8l Engine.


For ones not understanding. This should not move. And this pic shows bad.


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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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To say the least, my camaro with 177,7xx.x miles will be getting one REAL soon after seeing this!!!
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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well thats next on the list for my bird then ... shes got 132xxx on her ... that strectched out a lot for that many miles
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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im so happy i rooled over to 190 thousand today..origonal motor he eh he he ehe ehe :lala: :lala:
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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Thats about what mine looked like when I rebuilt the motor. It had 168,xxx miles on it and boy was it hot rodded to hell and back. Everything else in that motor is brand new because everything else was either worn out, or a crank shaft that almost broke in half.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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i've seen alot of engines like that 60k, 90k 40k...timing chains just kinda go like that, doesn't really matter unless it breaks
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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Can we see pics of the new chain mounted???
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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Hehe... Believe it or not that's nothing compared to the chain I took out of my firebird at 155k... there was a good 3 inches of travel... it was doing the death rattle against the timing chain cover... I got lucky that I caught that before it snapped.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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Sorry Ryan, I'm striping this engine down for parts, and just when I seen that. I might have a pic of my new engine, and timing chain. Would have to look though.

According to repair manuals, anything of .25" of travel like that, it needs replaced. I do belive that is in need of replacement. ( I just replace engine instead hehe)
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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I agree, just curious. Do you plan to order the one that summit has for our engines?
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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I wonder if I took any pictures of my chain install... I've got so many damn rolls of undeveloped film laying around my room! Just got a Mustek DV3000 digital camera; should come in handy for this summer!
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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WOW, with the original 200K on mine, and knowing that the guy who owned it before me didn't take that great of care of the motor, I think mine's gonna get changed next month.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Ryan, on my new engine (installed in s10), I did install a cloyes double roller.

When I go to do the camaro engine, I will install basic chain from local parts stores. I don't intend on it getting abused beyond basic driving. Save me about 40-60 bux.

Payday needs to hurry up!!!

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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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I would love to see what mine looks like i ahve 220,000 miles on my enigne and still going strong doing a major tuneup right now.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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40-60? jegs is selling double rollers for like $30
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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I would love to see a true double roller for this engine for 30 bux. Only one I have seen was a bill.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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Should have seen mine. it was slapping the timing cover so bad that it left hair line facture in the timing cover. I thought the noise was comming from my lifters. OOPPPSS!
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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I would like to see gears for ours so it has that blower whine to it.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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Heck yeah, the gear drives are awesome...
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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I was looking for some of them, no luck I was told they actually take 1-2 hp away from engine, but are by far more stronger.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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A guy came into my work with a gear drive on his truck i was all what kind of blower do you have it had that whine to it he said oh i just have gears. Since then i want a set. Is it true you cant use them with a hydrolic cam and hydrolic lifters????
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Not sure of what cams in can/cant be used on, never got that far. I don't see why you couldn't use it on any cam

The also make a set that is "nosie" or "silent". He must of had the nosie ones.
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