Project: 85 2.8 bird

3800 Series II, tranny, ecm & harness. Just needs a few extras, but damn. Sell the 3.4 & tranny....... hmmmmmmmmm

possible 2.8-3.4-3.8 swap super-dooper boogie. It could happen.


eit: drivetrain out of a 96 camaro. what is it w/camaros & donating engine?

Dale

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I say do it because its different, nobody has done it.

If you need some wiring help, let me know as I have hacked the 3.4l harness into something different. The 3.8l harness shouldn't be to odd to me now.

socialdeviant

if you go 3.8, only one to get the the GTP motor. otherwise... why?

85f-bird

GTP motor would be a heck of a swap (could be done ... but). FWD motor so placing it in a RWD vehicle would cause that intake to face the firewall if i see it correctly, routing would be no fun at all, so i'd say go camaro 3.8L , heck, they have S/C's for em, get a 300hp v6.

socialdeviant

I know the GTP will face the wrong way, thats why there is a very large cowl there, perfect for cutting into. And depending where you go for your tubes, you might not even have to do that.
I have seen 3" tubes 180 on a 3" radius. costed the guy 60 bucks, but the tunes were less then 1" apart doing that 180...
And considering that the GTP does not have a distrib, and it will sit close to the V8's position, you can have that tight tube right where the distrib usually goes.

Project: 85 2.8 bird

all teh 3800 Series II blocks, fwd or rwd use the same block. and yes, I've been looking at my GPGT engine, and how the exhasut crossover goes.............

RIght now, it looks to be contingent on where I can store/work on it. IF worse comes to worse,I'll keep it in the garage until I get the pace cleaned out again, but I am w/o a cherry picker again



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This also means that I will be selling the 3.4 engine/tranny when done. free plug: so if anyone ws planning on doing a 3.4 swap..........

F585

3800 Series II would be SWEET! I never seen one in a 3rd gen.
How many miles does the 3.4 have?

Project: 85 2.8 bird

the 3.4 I have has approx 44K on it.

85TPI400

I say go with the supercharged 3800!

fly89gta

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GN or TTA motor swap? what? yeah? COOL :sillylol:

socialdeviant

problem is the manifolds cost an arm and a leg. And the Pas? side is no longer avail? I am sure they are made in aftermarket, but again cost...
But then again I am spending almost 300 for my 'Quests Manifold.

Project: 85 2.8 bird

Go w/the GTP motor instead? not being offered. besides, there are other "forced induction" options available for it. Again, this is from a 96 camaro. here's the list of items it needs still:

It needs
maf sensor
thermostat
iat sensor
some plug wires
possibly an alternator


what would really be sweet is if that vss cluster gauge will work w/the engine set up :rockon:

KED85

Stay with the 3.4 & add the PACESETTER headers coming our way!

Grab the 3800 mill and await to find an engineless 1927 Ford T Bucket.
One Cheap Rodster!

Project: 85 2.8 bird

Came up w/2 snags on the deal:

motor mount brackets off of engine....are there any factory ones that would fit?

no cherry picker.

I might have ben a victom of a moment of clarity. 3.4 works, runs, just keep it. :heavy sigh:

SO..............anybody need a good deal on a 3800 engine tranny? In the Chilicothe OH area? PM/e-mail me. for pick up only, I'll help load

KED85

The Pacesetter headers are CLOSER to becoming a reality.
We have two people that are THINKING OF volunteering their time & effort for the cause of STREET LEGAL HEADERS.
AND
One need NOT remove an engine to gain about a good 15-20HP and the cost will be probably about $350-ish.....
Fair trade for the power upgrade.

NOW
Why won't the engine 3800 frame mounts from a 4th Gen 3800 series engine fit our 3rd Gen chassis?
MEANING
I got the 1995 F Body FRAME engine mounts with my latest 1995 Camaro 3.4.
I unbolted the 1985 S-10 Blazer 2.8 Frame mounts, those 3.4 frame motor mounts from the 95 F Body bolted right in, NO SWEAT!

Can someone answer that question about the frame engine mount swap part?
I think it wouldn't be difficult at all!

PS ya win big time by leaving what you have created & executed so well in your custom conversion. WHen headers arrive, you'll be even happier!

Project: 85 2.8 bird

the frame rails on the 93+ carsare wider than the third gens, that's why we had to reuse the 2.8 brackets on the 3.4 swaps. the 3.4 brackets were about 5" longer due to the wider frame rail area.

KED85

I got the 1995 F Body FRAME engine mounts with my latest 1995 Camaro 3.4. I unbolted the 1985 S-10 Blazer 2.8 Frame mounts, those 3.4 frame motor mounts from the 95 F Body bolted right in, NO SWEAT!

This was what happened for me.
I didn't have the opportunity to try the F Body mounts.
AND the Blazer frame mount ones looked & fit identical to the 1995 3.4 frame mount ones.
IN my Blazer are 1995 F Body Frame motor mounts.
Attached to the 1985 S-10 Blazer Motor mounts.
Yes, the CAST IRON F Body 1995 Motor mounts are NG.

I still think there's no reason why ya can't use the 1995 & above 3800 FRAME MOUNTS & find the correct 3.8 motor mounts for working under a F Body.
I can be wrong but, why not.
Is it the 3800 series MOTOR MOUNTS that are unique?
WHY not use the 2bd Gen 3.8 motor mounts?

Project: 85 2.8 bird

I'm gonna have to punk out of this. THe 3.4 runs, so why screw it up? and it keeps the possibility of smog legal headers for it in the future. Know anyone who needs the 3800 &/or tranny? let me know.

fly89gta

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if you go with a GN motor you can use the stock GN headers/manifolds and crossover pipe..you'd just need a custom downpipe..and oh yeah ditch the AC lol

Project: 85 2.8 bird

I'm gonna have to renig on my last post. The price is now $200 for it. Might be a summer project, or even winter

Posted this in the another forum, but if anyody cain get a set of the 3800 Series II F-body motor mount brackets, give me a PM or e-mail please