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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Spark Color

now, after 2 weeks, 3 ignition modules, new plugs, wires, cap, rotor, pickup coil, coil,throttle postiton sensor, and about 400 dollars, i have a little question, and this is only if the car keeps starting!!!!! i test for spark and its a bright yellow color. im not sure what this means, i thougt somthing was bad unless it was blue. so just wondering if you can help me out thanks alot
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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Yellow is way too cold. Should be white or blue. Something's definitely wrong there. When you test the spark...how big of a gap are you making it jump? If you're giving it like an inch gap, then that would explain it....the longer it jumps, the weaker it gets. Should only go about....ohh I don't know measurements...a few centimeters? Basically, the distance between the center and overhanging electrode points on a spark plug. Which is not very far! Hope that helps.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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Yeah, I've got a dark orange this is after a new coil cap and wires. I tested the old coil...dark orange. then I installed the new coil...Dark orange. Then I installed the exchanged new coil...dark orange. No more oem coils for me
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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Well OEM coils are considerably lower output than aftermarket coils. In most cases aftermarket coils put out at least 8,000-10,000 more volts than an OEM one.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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i tested it on a old plug, just hooked up to the coil wire off of the ditributer, nixon, what do you mean by cold? almost my entire igniton is new!!
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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That's strange... What I mean by cold is... Higher voltage means higher temperature. Higher temperature means different colors.

White is a very hot color...so is blue, but it's slightly colder. I think orange is colder than blue...yellow is colder than orange...and red is relatively very cold. From what I understand, yellow is probably the bare minimum to keep the car running...which I find strange to believe...I've never heard of anyone having a yellow spark whose cars still ran. Most people complain about poor performance, check it, and they get some kind of multi-colored spark with mostly orange...

Are you looking at the spark in light or dark? It's hard to tell the color sometimes...gotta stare right at the centerline... It might be a little harder to tell on a spark plug.... I've always heard of testing it with either an ignition tester, or a screwdriver held slightly above a fender. I assume this is for a reason...maybe the spark plug adds resistance and you can't get a good reading from it?
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 12:10 AM
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.... in the light... but i put my hat over the plug!! ill try the screw driver test in the dark garage... but hey thanks for explaining it, it was a really light/bright yellow, maybe my eyes are seeing different, but ill do the screw dirver test in the DARK tomrow, thanks
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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No problem... If it's really bright, it might be close to white and in that case you've got nothing to worry about. Long as it isn't like obviously orange.
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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in the case that it is orange, what causes somthing like that, ( especially with an msd coil)?
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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The main stuff is either like...a bad cap/rotor or too much gap between the rotor blade and cap terminal...or a bad plugwire that you're testing on....or the coil is just going bad. If it's new, it shouldn't have any issues unless it's a hunk of crap. I have an MSD Blaster TFI coil...Ford's version of the GM HEI coil. I'll test mine sometime and see what color I get and let ya know...IF I remember!
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