dude i cant take this no more i got beat by an integra 1.8 GSR and tonight a bright gay yellow honda 1.6 .... WTF i cant take it no more

i put the CAI in and did some exhaust work ... i need more power ... is it a wast of time to try and mod this v6

i just wanna blow away some **** burners

 

You're on an equal playing field with r!ce...because you have a V6...but a heavier car. They also generally have more available mods as well. Get a V8 and whoop them up and down the street. My 302 hung with an '03 SVT Cobra tonight for a full 3 or 4 seconds, til he shifted gears, where he slowly pulled away. Come play with the big boys man. Lol just kidding...if you wanna keep the 6 and mod it, then that's what you should do.

If you do want more cheap power though...do a complete total tuneup if you havent already, get a catback system or something not just a muffler, and do ignition, check your sensors out, and install some underdrive pulleys. Still though, there's not a lot you can do to the V6 that's worth the money sadly.

 

man i just wanna throw a v8 in ... but i have no money ... i want to drop in something with like 500 hp or more so i can hurt them

i give up moding this thing
sorry i need more speed

 

500 is obscene.... I've got prob. 350 at the fly and can devour most cars on the street. But, horsepower is money. And LOTS of it. It gets addictive. Dont get into it and expect to spend only a thousand or two. I spent well over $4000-$5000 in engine work alone and there's still more to be done to the car.

 

money dosnt mean anything to me i live at home with my parents ... so as soon as i get a job i'm blowing evry single dime i have on that car

 

Just remember...thats what I did. And I'm in debt, have a failing transmission, bad suspension, and bad brakes. It never ends.

 

so you have a 350 in that blue car or is this another car your talking about

 

Wish I still had my blue car. Nope..this is a 91 Mustang with a crate 302. Heads, cam, roller rockers, full intake, high flow MAF, headers, X pipe, mufflers, 4.10 POSI rear end.

 

Not that I condone street racing, or race alot myself, but no honda has given me any trouble

I even gave my fiancee's GXE maxima a run for its money, and that thing is no slug

 

damn that sounds nice.... i want one of those (sigh) ... there were a ton of em at the car show last night... at least i can do pretty good burnouts with my car


hehe

but i think i'm gonna try and save for an lt1 ... and while i'm saving spend a lil bit of money on the suspension here and there so it will be ready for the swap

 

LT1... Be prepared to shell out some cash!! You'd be better off with a carbureted motor. Cheaper and easier to install, and MUCH cheaper and easier to build and tune. My motor is EFI and is a royal b*tch...I've spent approx. $500 in JUST sensors to get it running good.

 

Yah, most of those new cars (regardless that they're 4 cylinders and have a tiny Liter size) tend to have 4 valves per cylinder and Variable valve timing (which some of them people like to always point out 'VTEC' or something in that line). Really does suck *** I know, but with the GSR you were talking about, a lot of those like the 1998 GSR can do almost 160hp stock, and it's a really lightweight car compared to ours that can rev almost up to 7500k/rpm's. :/ The Type-R of that same car for the same year can do 195hp apx and rev into almost 8k if I remember right.


Now, I'm not a import fan by far at all, but where running early 80's designed engines that were set up mostly for fuel economy and those stupid things called emissions laws. Had as just about everyone knows 135 (for the 2.8) avg., or less horsepower. That and we have 2 valves per cylinder in comparison to the new import and now even domestic 4 bangers .

I too also hate getting run down by Honda's and other imports, but (after spending years tuning), have been close with a lot of even newer Honda's in getting up and going. At the moment I just run the car as a cruising car with the tops off and enjoy driving a car that eventually with be a good old American classic, and hey, these things are getting there fast. For a final note, I'm not into racing it, but it sure is fun to drive the back country roads, and just punch it and even feel a little pull back in the seat.

Yet, as I have now am having a big V8 craving, I'm going to get another Camaro instead of swapping engines.

*grin* The Chevy V8 may commonly have 2 valves per cylinder, but hey, they still rule the road.

-Dan

Sorry about ranting, just it's still a V6 and was designed for cruising/fuel economy/daily driver unless our V8 like cars. I've also seen old ads when they actually put the 4cylinder engine in these cars, the V6 was described as a basic sport coupe set up that had a 'little punch' when you needed it. I'm assuming they meant this over the little rodent like 4 cylinder. heheh.

 

Not that anyone wants to look a this, but I just want to validate what I was talking about. *shrug* http://www.gs-r.com/speclist.html

and

http://www.womanmotorist.com/review/...-integra.shtml

Sorry about that.

-Dan

To bring peoples spirits back up, here is a picture of my thing.

 

and...

 

92RSSlowmaro: what year was that maxima? i'm guessing it was an automatic. my friend has a 98 auto se, and his dad has a 00 auto gle or gxe (i forget which one). they are both pretty damn quick. have you done anything to your car to make it keep up? is your car low miles? my bird is high mileage, and i have no chance keeping up with my friends maxima.......

 

The Maxima GXE is not a slouch, but it isn't exactly a backroad burner, either. The SE models are the ones you have to keep an eye on. The SE is the Sport model, and the '90-'92 models in particular (the ones with 4DSC, for "four door sports car" written on them) are regarded by enthusiasts as one of the best sports sedans ever made. The 3.0L V6 powering them is very tractable, and the SEs are very good corner carvers, with very linear steering and excellent cornering feel. Needless to say, however, they won't keep up with a decently powered thirdgen (read: not a V6). Keep in mind, your 135-140 hp mill is trying to push around a 3200+-lb. car, and you aren't going to really get good power, even 200 hp, without spending very significant amounts of money.

 

if you want to keep your V6 setup, and you want some power, the FIRST thing you will need are some headers. Pacesetter sells some headers for the 4th gen F-Bodies that will fit into our cars with a little modification, but are not CARB Legal. So if you live in California or NJ you would not be able to get them.

Pacesetter is also in the works for some headers specifically for our cars, and will also be CARB approved for you emmisions guys.

Headers will release our cars potential energy, which is good for around 200hp with just a cam and chip and header upgrade.

I would guess our engine is good for up to around 250hp naturally aspirated, the heads are very good, and able to flow 1.5hp/ci with minimal porting. The cam on our engines SUCKs tho, so i would go with something more radical, and a new chip to help the computer deal with the added power. You will also need new injectors from a 3.4 (which you could pick up from the junkyard) since the 2.8 ones are at thier limit on just a stock engine. You will also need new pistons to reach the 250+ mark, since the stock ones are very low compression.

 

Its actually pretty fun to talk to r!cers, because if u talk to them about moding ur engine, this is what they told me: "Oh well u cant do some of the stuff we do to our engines because ur engine is too big......." Yes, I do have a 2.8!!!

 

Its a 91. Maybe hers -is- the SE, I cant remember. (the badging is scratched off.) It has the DOHC 3.0 liter. Its defenetly anything but slow. Not V-8 fast, but fast enough that I certainly have fun driving it.

Anyways, I have no money invested into my engine. I took off the AC and smog pump, since we have no inspections in oklahoma anymore. I wish I could line up against another 3.1 to see how I fare, as I suspect it to be a factory freak of some sort. Or maybe im pathetically slow and just dont realise HOW slow I am

 

try getting a manual V6...

Honduh has to have something to it to get me...

But my next vehicle is slowly coming closer to fruition... ahh to have a 450Hp turbo...

Finally finished the head porting last week.
Stock 1.5"
Mine, 1 9/16"

Though after that car is done I will start working on the camaro, but at the very least it will go 3.4, or 383. Depending on how much that '04E will cost me for the 3.4.

But even if I go V8, it's still going under the turbo knife...

But if you have an auto 3rd.... good luck... better get that shift kit quick.

 

We are definetly not slouches but we can also definetly keep up with "decently powered thirdgens". I have raced 90Firebird's 91 Trans Am with a 305 a couple times and not only kept up but beat it by 1 car length everytime. Not trying to troll or anything...just trying to correct you Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead

PS: Brian if you are reading this I'm sorry I had to...lol

 

maximas suck ***, they are slow, BTW this is a 3rd gen board!
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i put the CAI in and did some exhaust work ... i need more power ... is it a wast of time to try and mod this v6
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Shhh, dont tell the v6 guys that, they will get very pissed.!

 

If you want power, the obvious easy way is to go v8. If you want to keep the six which is fine, you will be pouring a lot into it to get it quick. Doward is doing a great job with his turbo setup but I personally don't find it worth it to throw in 3k for a turbo and be just as fast a v8. Some people find it fun to make the smaller guys out run the big ones or just to see how much they can get out of the v6. The TTA's were awesome. The easiest solution is to get a v8 although im not trying to say thats what you should do. Hopefully when pacesetters hits up those headers, you'll definatley be better off and may be able to whomp on most imports since the exhaust won't be choking. Might want to look into the free mods too, like throttle body bypass and the like. They don't do much if anything, but I think all the little items will add up.

 

Very mature of you to say this...ignorance is bliss I guess?

 

I wonder how the mustage guys would like it if i joined a mustang forum and talked about my firebird and how i beat so and so blah blah blah... Its called WAISTING SPACE

No one cares about maximas, blah blah blah, its TGO not General car chat.

Ignorrance is joining a web site about a certain model(s) car and talking about something totally off the site.

 

dude, thats me with my dad's car in ludacris's sig pic... its an LB9 t-5, and i lost to that maxima by a carlength from a stop to 95 and from a 30 mph roll to about the same speed.... some may blame my driving, but nevertheless, that max is good for a mid to low 15 second quarter mile, and its pretty much stock. in my books, thats pretty quick (by no means slow) for a 3.0L v6 equipped family sedan....

 

Ignorance is not knowing how to spell ignorance, nor the meaning of the word. I'm not trying to start a war, there were a couple guys posting about maximas and i just wanted to correct. I said I'm not trying to troll ok bro? sorry bout it

btw: we've had fbody guys come onto maxima.org only to start flame wars, and I am perfectly fine with it, just another point of view.

 

dude, chill...
in terms of this thread, he is by no means out of context... someone said earlier that maximas are "by no means a slouch" and he simply agreed with it... sure, he brought this thread back from the dead, but its not like he just started a new thread going on and on about his car...

 

Very mature of you to say this...ignorance is bliss I guess?

 

I hate to say this. get NOS. It will give you the boost to beat those damn Honda's.

 

I'm a camaro guy and I post at a VW board.
Mianly because I stole there turbos.
Our V6 heads don't flow that good, because the exhaust flows all most as good as the intake we have a good nitrous head to work with.
They would make an ok turbo head and not a good super charger head becuase of the intake restriction of there design.
If you want a V6 to make power you have to get as long as possible cam duration don't worrie about a lot of lift.
Keep the intake valve open over .300'' as long as you can that more or less is the key.
If your going to stay N/A get a mechanical cam.
It is not a waste of time to mod our cars.
You have to get your heads ported first off more than any thing. You might beable to get 20hp just from that a lone if you do it good.

 

By the way, there's no way a V6 is gonna beat a modded V8, that can't be! LOLOLOLOL. Reality is a biatch ain't it? Nissan makes VERY nice cars. Their Engines are awesome. Alot of the import guys I talk to (Import guys, not the other kind), are very informed people. It's fun hving them bounce around ideas for building power. Although the SR20 powerplant (use the term loosely) is severely overrated. As long as it isn't a Honda.....

 

FbodTrek, i've gotta tip my hat to you... you've got your head on straight..

i'm not saying that everyone should automaticly love imports, just respect the fact that there are non-domestic guys that are very knowledgeable/serious performance wise. that is all.

 

Wow, I never thought I would hear "SR20" on a thirdgen board lol By the way, why do you think it's an overrated engine? what kinda imports do ur buddies drive? Nissans? This guy knows what he's talking about

 

Sr20 isn't a factory performer that's all. Decent buildable motor though (like my V6, lol). I got a guy with a swapped b16 Hatch, he runs pretty slow though (I dunno why, havn't looked at his car to find out). I got a buddy with a new RSX, that's a really nice car (even if it is FF). I've built a 240 or two in my time at the shop, which by the way is a slow car in stock form (too bad I can't get THAT motor in a Sentra though). Anyhow, I have learned to respect what imports can do.

 

Yea i completely agree...I thought u were talking about the SR20DET for a sec.

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I got a guy with a swapped b16 Hatch, he runs pretty slow though (I dunno why, havn't looked at his car to find out). I got a buddy with a new RSX, that's a really nice car (even if it is FF). I've built a 240 or two in my time at the shop, which by the way is a slow car in stock form (too bad I can't get THAT motor in a Sentra though). Anyhow, I have learned to respect what imports can do.

Yep, I agree that the 240s are slow in stock form. America got the truck engine (ka24) while everywhere else got the forced induction powerplants, at least as options. Thank American emissions regulations. I was originally going to buy a 240sx (rwd ) but not enough power, unless I wanted to swap in an SR20det or just turbo the ka24..oh well I give respect where its due and people who do the same automatically get my respect

 

The det variation is badarse. Nice and convenient.

 

What plans do you have for your V6?

 

I think I want it to stay NA, but the sound of a turbo is quite aluring. I figure I can make the motor spin to 7000 with a stock bottom end (have lots of research to do). The heads, in their current state, stop making power at about 5grand (by my butts calculations). First thing I am going to do after I get it back is look into a mid-high rpm cam and some hardware that can handle the redline at a near constant rate. Some tighter springs and a few head modifications. I've seen quite a few examples of 3.4s making over 200 Hp without too much coaxing. I figure I'm close to 180 now (lightweight flywheel, hedders, dumps, FPR). That may be a stretch though. I plan to make a custom plenum to see what I can do, others have had great success with doing this. I dunno though, If I can go turbo reliably, that'll be what I do, LOL.