Raced to the track for the first time with the mighty 2.8L V6 ;)
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Car: 1988 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350
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Raced to the track for the first time with the mighty 2.8L V6 ;)
1989 Pontiac Firebird, 2.8L V6, auto transmission, no mods with 112 000. I tought some of you might like to hear news from a little 2.8 'cause it's pretty hard to find some results for these cars.
RT: 0.619
60ft: ? (Wasn't working on my side)
1/8: 9.50
RT: 0.619
60ft: ? (Wasn't working on my side)
1/8: 9.50
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From: Hillsborough, NJ & SJU in Philly
Car: 1986 Trans Am
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that's not bad for the 2.8. By the way, I love that color man. What gears do you have and is that a one wheel squealer?
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actually, i take that back. 9.5 in the 1/8th mile is damn fast for a 2.8. My LG4 went 10.5 at 68.2mph with a 2.44 60 foot in the 1/8th. Are you absolutely sure it's stock? That would be a mid to low 15s 1/4 mile time. What was your mph?
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here are my numbers for the 99 GPGT I have, to do some apples~kiwi comparison:
R/T .521
60' 2.206
330' 6.445
ET @594' 9.323
1/8 ET 9.962
1/8 MPH 70.42
1/4 ET 15.520
1/4 MPH 88.04
R/T .521
60' 2.206
330' 6.445
ET @594' 9.323
1/8 ET 9.962
1/8 MPH 70.42
1/4 ET 15.520
1/4 MPH 88.04
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From: Central FL
Car: 91 Camaro
Engine: 3.1...not hardly stock
Transmission: 700r4....not stock either
Axle/Gears: 3.73
i don't wanna be sound mean but, that's a short track....there is no way it ran 9.5 on a stock v6. my modded v6 hasn't gone 9.5 yet. it might now though with the 4.10s and posi i just put in.
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From: Hillsborough, NJ & SJU in Philly
Car: 1986 Trans Am
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I don't doubt at all that you ran a 9.5. If you said you did and it was at the track and you have the slip, then you did. I am just questioning the whole "stock" part. There is no way a stock 2.8 V6 can go 9.5 in the 1/8th, or mid to low 15s in the 1/4. Not even the 3.1L or the LG4 305 V8 did that stock.
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For a comparo -
Stock 2.8 here ('88 in good tune) ran a 10.9 1/8th. I'm hoping to hit a 9.5 1/8th with like 6-8 psi from the turbo!
Stock 2.8 here ('88 in good tune) ran a 10.9 1/8th. I'm hoping to hit a 9.5 1/8th with like 6-8 psi from the turbo!
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I'd like to see a pic of the timeslip on here, cuz I can't see how a stock or even a slightly modded 2.8 can run a 9.5 1/8th mile. My LB9 with minor mods and a 5 speed i bet won't even do that.
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I tried to take pictures of one of the slip with my digital cam but doesn't work too good...
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To answer your question anymethod, my bird have the 3.42 gears that does spin only on one side...
All I did to the car was do a major tune-up.
All I did to the car was do a major tune-up. Member
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your car is nice man. which side of the slip is yours, and do you think you could type out the times, markers, and speed? Also, is the track at a certain elevation? Those times could be below sea level.
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it looks like the left side car ran a 9.1 at like 62.X and the right car ran at like 54mph only it says that one won. I am really confused now. Maybe more than the 60 foot was broken at the track. I know for a fact that my car ran 10.572 at 67.38mph in the 1/8th. The 1/4 mile time for that exact run is 16.45 at 81.99mph. Just take that into account. I don't see any speeds on that slip in the 70 mph range, so I don't see 9.5 1/8th miles possible.
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I didn't want to, but I am going to have to break down and use this for the first time.
. There is no way you did that with a stock 2.8 auto. It is impossible. I ran a 9.55 in the 1/8 mile and I run mid 14's at 95 mph. Check my sig for details on the car. I really don't think your telling the truth about either the times or the "stockness" of your car. But it is a very good looking bird, I'll give you that.
. There is no way you did that with a stock 2.8 auto. It is impossible. I ran a 9.55 in the 1/8 mile and I run mid 14's at 95 mph. Check my sig for details on the car. I really don't think your telling the truth about either the times or the "stockness" of your car. But it is a very good looking bird, I'll give you that. Senior Member
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short track...550'... I guess it helps to read other threads about the exact same thing
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=198472

-Bud
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=198472

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I'm on the right sideon the slip. The other guy did a red light that's why I have won on this one.
I think the track wasn't really a 1/8 when I compare my times with other...
I think the track wasn't really a 1/8 when I compare my times with other...
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well that makes more sense. Sorry if you took anything I said personally. Just trying to make sense out of what I was told.
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It had to have been a 1/8th mile track. There are only 2 types of tracks, 1/4 and 1/8th mile....and we all know it wasnt a 1/4 mile track.
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The 1/8th in Mobile is ~60' short of an 1/8th.... I think its 60' anyway, but I'm positive its short. Not sure why, but it is..... anything is possible *shrug* All I know is that a stock 2.8L has 0 chance of running a 9.5 in the 1/8th 
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I keep seeing this thhis post everywhere, think you have it in the racing area also?
Anyways, sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but put a locking rearend in it and some good tires and lets see a burnout. My mama's minivan can do a pegleg burnout like that on her hard k-mart tire also. Your boasting with the wrong car partner, just a heads up for you. We do not have motors that are known to be fast- and your is no freak motor form the factory- something is very wrong with your timeslip and figures.
Anyways, sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but put a locking rearend in it and some good tires and lets see a burnout. My mama's minivan can do a pegleg burnout like that on her hard k-mart tire also. Your boasting with the wrong car partner, just a heads up for you. We do not have motors that are known to be fast- and your is no freak motor form the factory- something is very wrong with your timeslip and figures.
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No kidding on the burnout... stock 215/65/15s went up no problem when I got the '88... put some 255/50/16 ZR50s back there, and all of a sudden, burning out was something that you had to work at. Of course, a full tune up, increased timing, and no cat let me light the one-tire-fryer up again. Once i get a Zexel Torsen back there though.. it's gonna get hard again!
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No kidding on the burnout... stock 215/65/15s went up no problem when I got the '88... put some 255/50/16 ZR50s back there, and all of a sudden, burning out was something that you had to work at. Of course, a full tune up, increased timing, and no cat let me light the one-tire-fryer up again. Once i get a Zexel Torsen back there though.. it's gonna get hard again!
No kidding on the burnout... stock 215/65/15s went up no problem when I got the '88... put some 255/50/16 ZR50s back there, and all of a sudden, burning out was something that you had to work at. Of course, a full tune up, increased timing, and no cat let me light the one-tire-fryer up again. Once i get a Zexel Torsen back there though.. it's gonna get hard again!
I run an Auburn posi and Goodyear F1 GS-D3's and a Darrel Young auto racing trans. Car runs very high 15's.
Edit: Sidenote- the grease spot on the exhaust is from everytime I lube the u-joints crap goes everywhere and burns onto the exhaust leaving a mark Just looks like crap.
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My car won't burn out when its wet(well for the most part) and will only get a second gear chirp when the tires are cold.
I run an Auburn posi and Goodyear F1 GS-D3's and a Darrel Young auto racing trans. Car runs very high 15's.
Edit: Sidenote- the grease spot on the exhaust is from everytime I lube the u-joints crap goes everywhere and burns onto the exhaust leaving a mark Just looks like crap.
My car won't burn out when its wet(well for the most part) and will only get a second gear chirp when the tires are cold.
I run an Auburn posi and Goodyear F1 GS-D3's and a Darrel Young auto racing trans. Car runs very high 15's.
Edit: Sidenote- the grease spot on the exhaust is from everytime I lube the u-joints crap goes everywhere and burns onto the exhaust leaving a mark Just looks like crap.
What did you paint the undercar with? Im thinking about doing it with some of that spray on Truck Liner stuff in a flat black.
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Thank you guys for the compliments- Basically just used ordinary EPOXY black spray paint bought at any hardware store Here's a better picture of the entire undercarraige (note: Spohn tubular SFC's, Spohn spherical mount torquearm, Spohn Ajustable LCA's, BMR relocators, Aluminum diff cover, Auburn posi w/ 3.23's, braided lines, rear disc, many many extras- too much to list
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So how did you get teh undercarriage so clean? I'd love to rent a steam cleaner, and blast the underside of mine...
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So how did you get teh undercarriage so clean? I'd love to rent a steam cleaner, and blast the underside of mine...
So how did you get teh undercarriage so clean? I'd love to rent a steam cleaner, and blast the underside of mine...
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You lucky b*stard. Haha, I miss the sun. It's been raining for almost a week now over here in Philly. Nice job with the car.
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hahaha. I live in 'Sunny California' too... and my 84 2.8 is extremly dirty... (past owner layed cement... and drove it to work through the dust everyday...) When i got it he hadn't even had an air filter in it
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