I noticed that alot of thirdgens are going up in value latly, my question is, will our cars go up even tho they are V-6s? Thanks

 

not much, and not nearly as much since they're common and undeseriable....in 30 years will these cars be worth 1000 bux anymore? i don't know, in thirty years, these cars might not even be streetable, it's more than possible. sooooo, are they going to go up in value, yeh, probably slightly, but as they go up in value somewhat, they'll be replaced by the next cheap fast car....the 4th gen.....


hey, how many people have been seeing 4th gen's that are starting to look like the third gens of a few years past...aka, different color body panels, huge exhaust tips, torn up interiors, etc etc etc....?

 

noticed that the other day, red camaro with primer black gfx wing and funny looking tips. may have been an rs

 

Thanks guys, Ya i wasn't sure if they would or not, i think they may go up in value a little, esp if the car is mint. They are attractive cars, like the 1960's V-6 firebird and camaro, those went up in price I hope ours do too

 

Yeah, even the V6 cars are gaining value right now... just remember it's the chassis and interior that are getting said value, not the V6 drivetrain. There are likely cases where someone would pay more for the car if you cleanly pulled the V6 drivetrain first.

 

How much you think they are going up in value?

 

in the 1960's they were inline six cylinders not v6 engines .....

not to be a stickler ...LOL...

 

personally, i think the biggest downfall of the thirdgen cars is their numbers....and how "little" they changed throughout the years. With the exception of thirdgen, or f-body enthusiasts, most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an early model bird, vs. a 91-92 bird. Same's true w/ the camaro, changes in ground fx, or location of lights, etc, are the big differences, except for engine setups etc.

the 1st gens have a desireable point to them because they were the first of a long breed of "muscle cars", they had a short production run, and are now old, hard to find, and hence collectable.

2nd gens have some that are easy collector pieces, early model camaro/firebirds (t/a's , Z28's, and SS's especially) their front grilles and memorable taillights are more "attractive" to many buyers than mid model second gen cars, and they were the f-body designed as a true "muscle car" vs. a "pony-car", and just about always, a 70-73 split bumper RS, will outsell a 74-77 Z28. The last years of the 2nd gens are somewhat desireable too, and no, i'm not talking 80+ but the very late 70's especially on the T/As. The 79 T/A has a desireable factor close to the 70-73 T/A. The kicker on those was the last 6.6L T/A's to be produced, last time for that shaker hood, and as sammy hagar woulda said "79 is the end of the road if you want horsepower overload"

3rd gens have a problem (as of now) because they're cheap and easy to find....somewhat like the second gen cars there were thousands upon thousands produced, (although how often do you see nice looking second gens driving around anymore?...and when you do, they're going for a pretty penny) so, in some more time will these cars become valuable? probably....will the sixes be valuable? depends on how rare the car is itself....Think of it also like this, if you bought a 70 camaro that was a pretty good body, decent paint, no rust, straight six engine, the first thing i'd be thinking was...pull it, and replace w/ a carbed 350...noone would be the wiser, especially if the swap was done right. The third gen car isn't quite like that. unlike the early model cars, the thirdgens were offering much more "style and sophistication" the idea was a sized down, muscle car...or....sport coupe. For enthusiasts v8 RWD was continued, and by mid decade, this "FUEL INJECTED" junk started coming into the market...So the thought of, get it, and slam a 350 in the ole' six now seems more difficult, atleast to be carried out "right". If you're putting an engine in a camaro that you want to look good, sound good, drive good, and do good at a show, you try to make the engine look like it came in the car....doing that w/ a thirdgen camaro/bird is highly difficult as the engines that came in the cars were normally burried under smog equipment, fuel injection, etc.

Now, will 4th gen's become thirdgens? yep, already happening...the reason = they're cheap (for the most part) high performance cars, being bought up by the dozen by teenagers who will wreck them, bump them, smoke the tires on them, etc. And they will be the thirdgens of previous years, the same was true for the second gen...before the weaker ones (poorer built) disappeared, and the streets were littered with a bunch of dudes sayin..."AIN'T NUTTIN, GUNNA BEAT MY CAMAAAAARO!"

 

Why would a '79 base model be any more desirable than an '81 base model?

A '79 TA T/A I could see, yes, vs an '81 Indy, or an '80 TTA... but hey, I'm a big 2nd gen fan.

 

i'd read my whole post but it's long...so , hmmm, did i say that dow? not sure if i did or not...but i'd agree, they're both "undesireable"

 

Yeah true, I however am a teenager who ownes a thirdgen. NO bass, stock everything, great looking stock car, no neon! Nothing, Don't steroype to much now HOw much do the WC T-5 trannys go fro and how rare are they in a 2.8? Thanks guys

 

Ive seen 85 2.8's with 180k + miles for sale for 3k!

Hope they go for a decent amount. Mines for sale now I need something bigger with 4 growing kids. Just got a perfect dash pad and ta tail lites too.

 

brobert your selling off ur bird? after the v8 swap? or are u selling another car off that you happen to have? That'd kill me if i spent all that time doing something like that only to have to sell it soon after things finished up....what's the price on some cheeper, reliable, used cars? Thought on my thirdgen is, it's old, it's paid for, it's insurance isn't much, and to drive it is still fun, so.....esentially, it's gas, insurance, and a $$ for fixing it every once in a while...but i still love it.

And 350man, didn't mean to stereotype to much, i got my bird @ 16, i'm 21 now, and definately not against younger people having birds and maros...the reason however that most young people buy them is because they're cheap performance cars, which normally will equal out to abused cars. (drive it like ya' stole it mentality). Often times also, a kid doesn't have the $$ to fix something that gets messed up, and as just about all of us know, 99% of all people can't drive....most of us would be in that 99%, prob is we'll all deny it , i like to think i can, but then i see other people and know...."atleast i'm not driving like them" This is especially true for a group of people who just get their license, and all the more true for new licensed drivers in camaros, firebirds, mustangs, and even those rare few in corvettes (knew several of them from highschool)

 

Yeah its the car i did the swap in. Im not looking foward to selling it. I like the car, It runs like its a brand new car. Even with a carb it starts first crank everytime. The swap is clean too. I dont have any wires just cut and hanging anyplace.

BUT

I have small kids. Im tired of having to use someone else's car (if i can) to go anyplace with them

The car is nice and i love it, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

 

That sux to here man, I bet it has lots of power Sorry to here


Thats ok man, yeah I am working on restoring, put $1500 into my motor But i do what I got to do Not two many nice third gens around my way, so it will be cool to see one around and at shows. My motor looks new News fenders and hood now Then paint in the spring. I have 128,000 on it right now

 

I actually see prices going down in my area.

The clean cars are always the exception, but I have seen decent late 80's Z/Irocs got for mid 2G's.
I have watched one, a 91 Z, go from 4500 a month-6 weeks ago to 2800 OBO now.

Sorry to say but it is the trends that decide prices. And slowly but surley 3rd gen cars will get less valuable. About the only one that will hold and grow in value is the TTA.

Our cars, V6/V8 are a dime a dozen.
Hell I have seen perfectly good 3rds in junk yards. I mean CLEAN. Just sitting there. Maybe need an engine or something, but no rust, good paint. Convertable, T top, hard top... sitting there...

 

Ya i noticed that to a little, but people in my area seem to be going back to thirdgens. Guys who owned them when they were in high school and now grown up more are looking to get there old car back. I noticed this, many teenagers don't want these car because they break down to fast, which is not correct if you know how to work on them Also I was told thirdgens came with great suspension from factory, I have a 34mm front sway bar on my car Handles great. Even though its the 2.8, the 5 spd keeps it going quite well I hope they go up in value rather then die off.