Before Someone says Search, I've been scrounging around all night...

Anyways, what kind of turbos will work? I mean Ive seen eclipse turbos and a Saab one, but would something off a Daytona or a Dodge Shadow or something work? I bet in the junkyards theres a huge demand for DSM *eclipse* turbos, but less of a demand for a turbo from a car that people dont really beef up. Any Ideas of what cars are turbo that arent really "peformance" that would be possible donor cantidates?

Any one have any doodles or pictures or anything of how the plumbing is routed?

I've also noticed that on Dowards the EGR is removed, is this related?


That thing in the bottom right looks EGR related, Where does that go to techsmurf?


If I can find a turbo for the right price, I really do wanna do this. Thanks for any help guys I have a spare 2.8 in my dads garage that I need to get rid of. Its mostly complete, are there any parts I might wanna snag for the fabrication part of it so that I dont have to hack up my current engine? Like the Exhaust Manifolds and some Intake stuff maybe?

:edit *like 5th time lmao* : I hear that ground clearance will be an issue... im lowered 1.6 inches, am I screwed? lol

 

4-cyl Mopar and DSM turbos are too small. I'll leave it to Doward to start explaining flow maps (too late for me now). Thing at the bottom right is the oil feed/drain assembly for the CT-26 ... my egr is removed, but *may* be returning once I fabricate a new downpipe

 

sooo, that bolts onto the Turbo not the EGR? Im confused lol

 

Also, if you're fabricating, ground clearance is only an issue if you make it one. You're kinda free to run pipes however you want, frame/engine/accessories/K-member willing.

 

Yes, it's part of the turbo.

 

ahh ok cool thx. Outta curiousity, do you have any other pics besides whats on your site?

 

*yawn* Up before 8am... what's wrong with me?

Any of the turbo II 2.2 LeBarons, Daytonas, Omnis (the Dodge/Chryslers) with the GARRETT turbos are good starts. Easily upgraded, as well.

You'll probably find something like a 45 or 50 trim T3... They really don't flow enough for our 2.8/3.1s. They WILL WORK, but I'd recommend going to AT LEAST a Super 60 compressor wheel, if you upgrade... T3/T4 hybrid is where the power is, though

If you have any questions, hit me up on AIM

 

Cool. lol awesome, the 2 Masters of the 2.8 Turbo Replied to me Just the guys I was hoping to talk to haha. Ya, I added you to AIM the other day but wanted to research a bit more before I bugged ya I dont sleep much, and ive been reading that turbo chronical thread *YEY at the bottom of page 3*

Hows the Adjuster thingy work? I am having a brainfart as to its actual name

I know a guy that got an internship with Garrett and he has a Celica that runs like 11's, so tomorrow I'll talk to him some about the turbos
*edit* Finished LMAO I read all that awesome stuff with the BS thrown in it, just to read that mod say "ok new thread so people dont have to read that!" haha oh well I had fun doing it

 

i dont know a whole lot about the whole turbo subject but i do know, from working at a dodge dealership, that those turbos off the daytonas, shadows, etc tend to puke out around 80,000 miles or so. if you get one, make sure you get it rebuilt before installing it. ive seen a lot of them replaced, they werent a great design for longevity.

 

I'm kinda lacking in the picture department. I didn't have a digital camera back when the original setup went in. Got a nice 6.1MP camera now, but no noteworthy work has been done since then. Pictures will start to flow when I begin work on the new exhaust setup (Mock-up engine is on a stand waiting for materials).

 

lol just take more pics of the current setup But I am a camera ***** and take tons n tons of pictures

 

the waste gate? sitting on top of the turbo in that pic w/teh cannister & nipple and teh rod going across.

 

ahh. No isnt there a **** you turn that beefs it up or turns it down? My friend has a 91 eclipse that when he wants to save money or run lower octane, he turns the turbo waaay down so that his car is dead slow lol

 

i may be able to grab a turbo from a dodge caravan for 100$ cad. just a thought. i dont know if i want to turbo my car as id rather have another camaro (v8 ttops 5speed) but if its not much trouble then heck if i can do it for a few $ then why not.

so what kind of exhaust manifold does your kit have. i have an exhaust leak there so i need to fix it anyway. hell if i gotta take the manifold off may as well throw a manifold with a turbo there right? hah.

which side manifold does the kit use? any completed pics?

 

his uses both engine banks, and stock manifolds. 5 speed V8s are ONLY 305s, and 305s suck No such animal as a 350 5 speed. you could always get an IROC and swap a T56 in but holy expensive batman

 

...the turbo v6 would be more fun! lol

 

Exactly!! The Blow Off Valve freakin rules too Doward or Techsmurf, got a video or a sound clip at least of yours?

 

my car is an auto hardtop and is brown.

i still want a black v8 5 speed ttop, and i always will until i get one.

both exhaust banks eh. so what you flip both manifolds around?

 

huh? what do you mean flip em around. They work how they are, I'll let them explain that though... Even if, they cant swap sides because the exhaust ports are like O OO and the other one is OO O or something to that effect, they wont line up when you flip em

 

Anyone have an esitmate what kinda numbers a Turbo 3.4 liter puts out? Would that compete with an LT1 6 speed? lol. Ive driven an Lt1 6 speed and it would be the coolest thing to have my V6 thirdgen do that

Questions about the Speed Density swap... Talked to ya earlier Smurf about it, but still confused. I've been searching and cant find any info on it more than just the words "speed density" So what parts do I gotta swap? I can probally score all that stuff *and a 3.4 short block* from a junkyard. Just use the full SD Setup off of the car with the 3.4? Thats just in early LT1 body style camaros right? I thought MAF was better for turbo because more headroom for PSI How do you get around that with SD?

I found this, but its for V8s
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~davis/z28/ecm_swap_730/

how much applies to V6? That is saying get a new MemCal for theV8 MAP system. Does the chip from a 3.1 91 RS work? Or would the 4th gen work somehow?

And Random questions... what kind of Oil Ring compression is best for Turbo setups?

 

On the street, from a roll, I'm as fast as a LS1/A4 SS already.

That's with the tiny turbo, and a 3.1

I'll be rolling out the T61 today, and tuning starts... I'll get to the track, either tomorrow, or next Wednesday, to see how it runs.

Power output from a 3.4? Tiago had 258/332 at the wheels, from a T4 on a 3.4. I got 222/291 at the wheels, from a smaller 16G, and need of tune (Tiago @ 7psi, me @ 6psi)

And both are handling it like a champ

 

Holy Hell I am totally goanna do it now Hang with Da LS1s in a 3rd gen is my dream. They all turn their noses up at 3rd gens and they're crappy... till they get smoked by one How much was that Setup total -VS- that SS you hang with? Exactly

Have you done the SD Swap? The artical I see on that scares me

 

Nope, I sure haven't... my kit works with the stock MAF

Are you wanting one?

 

Well... besides the smoke V8s factor, I really really really want a turbo for the BOV sound, and from what techsmurf and others have said, I cant have that with MAF

Does yours do it?

 

turbos are cool i have a grand national in my 87 3rd gen they are a cool thing. i just have promblems on launching the brakes won't hold to make boost but good luck with everything

 

Just test drove the T61...

OH MY ***. From 3200+ rpm, it's like the hand of *** is pushing you.

I swear, 6psi on this, is faster than 10psi on the 16g TUNING TO COME!

 

Thats badass. Is it really that bad to get a turbo from the junkyard? I'm talking to my turbo friend right now and he said DO NOT GET A JUNKYARD ONE!!! how hard are they to rebuild?

He also said the way around Atmosphere BOV and MAF readings is to get a vane pressure controller. *edit* but by what he said after that it sounds like SD is a better way to go.

 

It's all in where you place everything... in all honesty, I'm going from a BOV to the atmosphere, to a recirculating BOV - for one, it keeps the turbo spooled MUCH better, and for two, I can't hear the BOV over the sound of 3.1 liters screaming at 6000rpm through 3" Flowmaster piping, and the shrill shriek of the turbo sucking air in a 3" pipe

 

Eh, I know its better to have recirculating, but I want to be able to have it open too. Like I love loud cars, My truck was really loud cause my exhaust was open. I finally put the exhaust back on. Just wanted to get it outta my system It would just be nice to have the option to open it

 

You can - just disconnect the pipe going back to the turbo inlet

 

ya, wont that screw over the MAF readings though?

 

You just run rich in between shifts. No huge prob

 

ahh. I thought it would bog but I guess not. Are you on AIM?

 

Yep - uberDoward

 

It can be a huge prob. Mine was flooding and stalling on shifts.

 

Wow... I don't have that problem at all

 

I can get a TD04E for $50.00 it has 48000 miles on it. Would this be a good turbo for a 3.1???

 

Hell no, no where NEAR big enough.

 

d-man i've been gone a little over a week
(spent a week with my son )
did you ever make it to the track with the new turbo???