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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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A/C bearings

Im hearing this chatter noise coming from my A/C. I did a search on the issue and found people with this problem. one of the problems was with a bearing. how do you get to the bearing and replace it and where can you find the bearings at(store/junkyard) if this is the problem? any other ideas will be helpful in me finding the problem.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Could probably ask this on the main tech forum; but I believe you need a $60 tool to be able to do the job- and that's just for pulling the clutch pulley off, that's not even getting to the bearing yet.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Dammmn can I just rent it? Is the bearing hard to take off and is there a picture of the tool and what is it called?
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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I paid $150 for a rebuilt compressor with warranty from Pep Boys.
I suggest you do same as I did & search for replacement with a warranty at fair price.
Far better value.
My favorite place to look?
Is Business Yellow Pages.
East L.A. rebuilder vendor visits on Saturday-Sunday morning combined with great Mexican food for breakfast is the best!
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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KED85 where are you in LA? Im in Hawthorne.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by KED85
I paid $150 for a rebuilt compressor with warranty from Pep Boys.
I suggest you do same as I did & search for replacement with a warranty at fair price.
That's exactly what i think... but you can always ask on the main "general tech" forum, those guys could tell you better about what you'd need to do. (And I'd bet they recommend to get a rebuilt unit, too.)
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Car: 92 RS
Engine: a slow one
Transmission: a crunchy one
Axle/Gears: a whiny one
Originally posted by KED85
I paid $150 for a rebuilt compressor with warranty from Pep Boys.
I suggest you do same as I did & search for replacement with a warranty at fair price.
Far better value.
My favorite place to look?
Is Business Yellow Pages.
East L.A. rebuilder vendor visits on Saturday-Sunday morning combined with great Mexican food for breakfast is the best!
stop that

seems like no one will even answer a question half the time... it's fine to bring up other solutions. but people often ignore what the person is asking and only offer what they would do...

your logic IN MY CASE is a waste because I JUST HAD a remanufactured compressor put on the car.

THEN the clutch bearings went out on the front of the damn thing. (who knows, didn't pack the bearings, didn't check the components thoroughly enough before rebuild, doesn't matter)

I would much rather just rent the tool somewhere and pull a clutch at the junkyard and slap it on mine for next to nothing than get a whole compressor... Not to mention the fact you HAVE to take a compressor in to be installed if there is pressure in the lines.

Which is alot more than your implied "150 dollar cost"

and no way am I doing the whole install over again, plus buying a compressor, when I have a compressor that blows ice cold in there already just because the bearings are going out and eating belts.

I'll be calling around for the tool.

(for a temp fix until you get the bearings fixed, go get a belt for the same car but tell them you DON'T have AC... they tried to argue with me and tell me that I couldn't do that, so I eventually just blew up and said GIVE ME THE DAMN BELT, 6 months, i drive it hard, no problems.)
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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By 5 & 405 & 118 in the valley
YOU DOWN THERE?
I got my AC stuff not only at PEP Boys (Cluver City) BUT also at a cooling shop on Hawthorne Blvd. On south side of street. I think close by Sepulveda Blvd area, sorry not to sure on the direction details. I recall it may be by a fast food place, like Jack in the Box. White building, 4- garage bays and ya can't see garages from street only face of the narrow white building.
I also get my R12 at a shop in Santa Monica. Haven't touched the R12 since install back in 1999/2000 time.
IF you install everything this guy will recharge ya at a fair price.
I love my operational R12 AC system! Chills Ice Cold!
Serious I check out business yellow pages for rebuilders by the old phone books I kept from 90's. Most East LA Shops will sell to anyone & those Mexican Breakfast Burritos on Saturday morning ya can't beat it ($25 rebuilt smog pump)! The place I got my rebuilt compressor ($150-ish) from is at Pep Boys & it came from a rebuilder place in Texas, tho.
I go that silver descenter ($40-ish) (sp?) canister from that place on Hawthorne Blvd. I think I also got my Orfice (AC Filter) tube ($10-15-ish) from same shop in Hawthorne/Lawndale. When filling with R-12 like this shop did, I discovered I need not purchase separate "AC oil", as I had, to lube the new reactivated system.
Hope these are good clues.
Serious ya send the time to do this job right & it pays for years to come. I spent a total of $300-$400. BUT I have a kid & Wife to protect from heat.
Everytime I hit the AC it pays in dividends.....and I discovered ya cannot do this job piece by piece. Everything must be done (major component replacements), right, tight, secure before charging for proper operational longivity.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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A very good buddy of mine, who is a GM tech decided to try to rebuild his AC compressor, to the stage he needed.
One part was bearing/seals.
I gave him detailed Helms information (same stuff as in his books, but he couldn't put his hands on those pages/notes or whatevers).
After reading the detailed Helms instructions.
he passed and got a rebuilt assembly and installed.
This AC bearing rebuild is not exactly the easiet.

Not that most feel turning wrenches is easier, some projects better left to "others/Rebuilding facility" and also in cost obtaining a warranty.

IF ya want at it, do so.
Don't dump on me cause I offer a solution.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Dizturbed One
I would much rather just rent the tool somewhere and pull a clutch at the junkyard and slap it on mine for next to nothing than get a whole compressor... Not to mention the fact you HAVE to take a compressor in to be installed if there is pressure in the lines.
I don't think you can rent that tool, plus, I'm pretty damn sure you still have to depressurize the system before you mess with the motor.

So you'll still have to recover the R12, take the motor apart, fix the bearing, evacuate the system, recharge it, and hope it works.

Or you could convert to R134a and buy a vacuum pump (you'll need a shop air compressor), then you could recharge at home.

That's why I'm saying to ask on the tech forum!! I pulled my a/c out 9 years ago, but I know they've talked about this on the tech forum before.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Thanks for all of your comments and help guys. I will take it all into consideration. THANKS.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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What happened on this? Is it possible?
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