V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

Oil filter direct to block??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 05:21 PM
  #1  
Geyservillebob's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: Sonoma County, CA
Car: '63 Nova Wagon these days
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: 5-speed
Oil filter direct to block??

I want to eliminate the right angle oil filter adaptor on my 3.1L engine and screw the filter directly into the block. I have the correct nipple adaptor to do this. The right angle filter adaptor has a pressure relief valve built into it. I assume this is for filter bypass in case the filter gets clogged. The block looks like it has a place for a relief valve but no relief valve is installed.

What do I need to do here? Do I need to install the relief in the block?

Do I need to use a filter with a built in relief bypass and plug the hole in the block?

Am I misunderstanding something here?
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 07:53 PM
  #2  
RBob's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 18,432
Likes: 234
From: Chasing Electrons
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check
This is just my personal opinion: I don't like oil filter bypasses. This doesn't mean I've disabled them on every car I own. However, they are blocked on the ones with hi-performance engines. The filter bypasses open with very little differential pressure. Which means that a lot of oil goes unfiltered.

If you use a proper thin oil (10-30W) or even better a synthetic, along with a good filter (WIX) a blocked bypass is an asset. This is even more so with a new engine break in. It will prevent any metal from filling the oil passages (such as from a wiped cam lobe during break in) saving the bottom end.

Just my 2 cents worth.

RBob.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 08:20 PM
  #3  
Geyservillebob's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: Sonoma County, CA
Car: '63 Nova Wagon these days
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: 5-speed
RBob,

Sounds reasonable. However, I have seen an oil filter detonate from too much pressure. I was a cold morning, I was working at a service station and this truck had just been serviced. The wrong filter had been installed (I assume) and the filter burst at the seams when the engine was started. Quite a mess.

One thing I'm worried about is that if I've interpreted things correctly then I need to do something about the relief hole in the block or the filter will be bypassed all the time!

Anybody have any input on this?
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:26 PM
  #4  
Project: 85 2.8 bird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,461
Likes: 0
From: BFE, MD
Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
Engine: 5.7 / 7.4
Transmission: 6sp / TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.55 posi / 3.23
why not just install a relocation kit?
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:03 PM
  #5  
KED85's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 7,604
Likes: 1
From: ****SoCal, USA****
I once had a filter explode as you described.
That was many many many oil filter changes ago.
I see no true advantage for altering what the GM engineers left us to work/oil change with.
There is so little space down where is the current filter set up.
Relocation would be a best option.
IF you do remove the oil filter housing, it requires a new gasket & a new o ring on the bolt holding in the housing to block for reinstallation.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:57 PM
  #6  
Geyservillebob's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: Sonoma County, CA
Car: '63 Nova Wagon these days
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: 5-speed
The application is non-Camaro. In this application the GM oil filter adaptor interferes with custom headers made for the V6. Relocation is certainly a future option but a stock filter mounted directly to the block will work with the headers and is the simplest and cheapest way to go to get started.

Even with a relocation set up I still have to wonder about the bypass hole in the block.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:59 PM
  #7  
Project: 85 2.8 bird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,461
Likes: 0
From: BFE, MD
Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
Engine: 5.7 / 7.4
Transmission: 6sp / TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.55 posi / 3.23
how is the filter sitiated in teh s-10s?
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:50 AM
  #8  
KED85's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 7,604
Likes: 1
From: ****SoCal, USA****
Same.
I've changed my oil on my Blazer since 1989
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
maroe624
Transmissions and Drivetrain
4
Apr 16, 2017 08:29 AM
Derick15
Tech / General Engine
2
Sep 17, 2016 05:28 PM
Navy8125
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
4
Aug 21, 2015 09:32 AM
355sbcTPI
Electronics
2
Aug 19, 2015 04:38 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:08 AM.