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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Need a metal Carburater fuel line

I need the metal fuel line that runs from the fuel pump to the carburater. THis is for my 1984 2.8L V6. Sadly the last time the fuel filter was changed, my friend and I ddint have a flare nut wrench...so the nut was ripped up when it was put back on. So I need to replace the line as I cant replace the nut itself. Pontiac and all dealers do not seem to have any of those metal fuel lines any more..so any one who can sell me one or tell me who to get in touch with...would be great...


PS All of the wrecker yards in the sacramento area, and the bay have said they cut those lines as part of the fluid draining they have to do.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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go to the local speed shop, pick up some metal fuel line, get a couple of flare nuts while you are there and the flare tool, and make what you need! i do it with all my cars as part of the upgrades and preventative maintanence. the camaro is due shortly to replace all fuel lines with aluminum lines to prevent rusting them out!
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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Unless you happen to have this example, you can't understand the problem.
Having this same line on my 85 2.8 carb'd Blazer since 1989 and changing the fuel filter only twice due to fragility of this line, is the norm.
The "U" Bend?
Try looking at a quarter.
That's the bend. I'm always surprised the fuel ever made it thru.
What's the part number they offered ya?
Next choice is a place called "Classic Tube" 800-882-3711
Next would be Classic Industries known as Classic Camaro in Huntington Beach, CA
Making this line?
Don't bend/screw up the original line in first place is the real solution!
Recently had the fuel line MADE for my 74 Corvette. I watched teh guy do it, also. That was the way for that solution, as that fuel line is an easy project. But this factory 82-84 fuel line & my Blazer? Ya get new.
Thanks for this topic cause I may seek out a spare!
Let me know your results.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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it sounds like a piece that i got to replace on my mustang, they make hand benders for the fuel line that will easily bend a 1" radius on them. it looks kinda like the same thing that plumbers use to hand bend pipe. i have replaced the fuel line that i am talking about before. i refuse to bend the fuel line with anything but a bending tool. if all else fails, fill the line with sand, and bend. the sand will stop the line from crushing it in on itself. anyway just a idea. good luck on whatever you decide to do about the problem!
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Well easier to jus buy it new to be honest. I dont have the tools needed to make it myself, and heck I dont even know of any speed shops...but thanks again to KED, who knows far to much I have a couple of names to hunt down now and take care of this. Oh and Pontiac didnt give a part number, they just said they stock nothing engine wise for carbuated cars because they are too old.


And yes in the future, I will be getting a set of flare nut wrenches so the next time it wont get messed up.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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FYI
EVEN WITH FLARE WRENCHES
This was a ball buster which is why I only changed my filter twice since 1989.
I'd try another dealer. That place was way to lazy.
Ask to see illusration of fuel system for 82-84 F Body and just trace the fuel lines until ya see the part coming off fuel pump.
And yes it'll also be leaky at the fuel pump too.
This is a lousy part designed real quick for getting a fuel economy engine into a hopeful well selling car.
If I failed ya let me know & I'll try some more names for ya.
I just looked in Classis Industries an they do not have it!
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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I wonder...since it is such a low PSI, could I just replace the fuel pump and lines to the tank with rubber lines? and a low PSI electronic pump?
If so how thick a rubber line and any known good low PSI electronic pumps?
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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i'd stay away from rubber lines, if you ran over something theres alot more of a chance of the rubber breaking then steel
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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I knew this topic would be going in this direction.......
ONE.....
NO ON RUBBER FROM FUEL PUMP TO CARB LINE
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
The factory set up as is, is CORRECT WAY TO FEED FUEL TO THE CARB
Ya run ANY rubber line and it's bound to melt due to too close to exhaust manifolds!
AND DUE TO THAT DAMN 180* BEND
the hose will collaspe!
THUS YA BACK TO
Fuel line correctly made in metal
Try
Inline Tube also
800-385-9452 or 810-294-4093
Here is a electric pump set up I made temporary to feed the 3.4 in there.
Works quite well
BUT CORRECT SOLUTION IS
the TBI pump (14PSI) in Blazer tank & a regualtor to bring pressure down to 5PSI.
I'm already using a regualtor to bring down the pressure of the Carter pump (which is 5-7PSI already)
NO on rubber lines, ya use the factory correct stuff.
See my rubber lines?
Short away from heat & also "helped (see clamps) to keep from collasping" at the bends....
Keep searching & I'll keep trying to find more options.....
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:20 AM
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I had the exact same problem. I stripped the nut holding the line on the carb and had to cut the line at the edge of the nut.

Solution: Since the fuel line is bent a whole lot at the area in question, you can use it to your adavantage. I actually just made a new bend and a new flare. There was enough "slack" in the fuel line just near and above the valve covers to make new bends, so it reached the carb.

Works only if:

1. You cut the nut off right at the edge, so you can save as much fuel line as you can.

2. Have LOTS of patience, as it's a real pain in the *** to bend the line, so it fits and doesn't break. It took my dad like 3 hours, haha I was prepared to do it myself, but he got to it while I was gone. Thanks dad!

Get a new flarenut and a flare maker. Also get one of those bending tools and make sure it's for the correct diameter tubing. (Every diameter requires a specific diameter tool)

Change the fuel filter while you're in there!
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:26 AM
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And also, I doesn't matter if you **** it up. You'll just be back in square one, same as the place you are in now.

Are you sure you can't get new fuel line from like a NAPA or something? In Finland you can buy it in bulk from over the counter at most automotive stores. Like a 10 meter pack for 20 dollars. Then just cut, bend, make flares and you're done.

If you make new flares, remember to place the nut on the line first. Otherwise you'll be really pissed off, once you realize your mistake.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Well Im looking first to replace the line itself fully rather then make my own. I dont like buying tools I will use once and never again. WHich to bend the tube and flare it, Id need a couple tools right there. Im sure I could get tubing from a home depot or some other type store. I was thinking rubber, as its easy to replace and can be re-routed away from the manifolds I think..heck looks like KED managed it on his blazer. First thing will be betting the bloody nut off the carb...will keep trying through out the week, jus been to busy this weekend to get to it.

Thanks for the ideas and comments folks
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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you cain always rent the tools from autozone & then return them for mone back.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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AGAIN NO ON FUEL LINE RUBBER
My set up you see is the short sections of rubber GOING TO THE ORIGINAL METAL FUEL LINE TO CARB FUEL LINE. I plug into the fuel line off the Fuel pump area. ALl the way down there! which is why ya see loops & such.
My stuff is FAR AWAY from any engine bay heat on my Blazer set up.
Your FBody the engine bay is mighty tight fits which is why I would never ever suggest ya go with rubber line.
PLUS the chances of it collapsing due to suction/fuel feed, bends......
Ya got a snowballs chance in hell making it a safe alternative.
What did any of those vendors say about the fuel line?
That back nut on carb
SO SIMPLE
VICE GRIPS THE REAL BRAND NAMED VICE GRIPS to remove that nut...that fuel filter nut is dead, kill it!
PS get me the correct fuel filter line part number & I'll see about getting ya that part.
I need GM part number, please.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Well the problem is...no one sems to have any number at all for that part...so either I make a new one or see about forcing fuel injection on the car...
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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You've gone to dealer to ask for the illustrated picture of the fuel feeding system at the parts counter, for your car year, right?
Ask them that and just follow the fuel line off the fuel pump.
Get me the part number & I'll track it down at a dealership around the country.
I'm installing 4 granite counter tops or else I'd go to a local dealer & chat with them.
Ya gotta make this request in person, not over phone.
If ya can't score it by using a F body, ask them to pull up S-Series vehicles & do same thing using a 1985 S-Series as example of year.
What did these other vendor numbers say when ya called?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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None of the other places you listed have the part, everyone seems to just carry V8 items...never the V6..Almsot making me wonder if I shouldnt just drop in a LS1 and be donew ith it..
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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I put in a request to GM Parts direct for the part
I await a response.
IF ya had a GM part number I'd find out in moments.
Oh well
Don't give up & as a back up ya can go to ANY GM
X Car (Citation) 79-84
A Car (Lumina) 79-84
F Body 82-84
S-Series 82-85
And swipe that line using right tools
And by ANY car it's gotta be 79 - 84 cars
And ANY S-Series truck 82-85.
That's alot of choices in a yard for your part, too.
I'd go to dealership for finding number except I have house rebuilding work going on.
Just priced out rebuild/repainting the pool. Try $2,840.00. That don't include refilling pool with water!
SO YA KNOW
IF YA GOT the bend to carb in PERFECT SHAPE from a wrecked car, ya can patch that line ON THE INTAKE MANIFOLD AREA with rubbber hose a short section, using good METAL LINE line UP FROM the fuel pump TO INTAKE MANIFOLD AREA!
SINCE your now fuel line is screwed at that bend to carb area, you gotta find that bend to the carb in perfect shape for this patch type work TO BE SAFE!
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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I'm too lazy to read thru, so I dont know if anyone mentioned this... I just replaced the fuel lines in my camaro and found out that they have a weird flare... I just had to make a few more trips to the auto parts store to make the line fit on the stock filter, thats all.

-Jim
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Here's the response from GM Parts direct
This is "SAME ANSWER" I got when we needed to recently make my fuel metal line for my Corvette from Fuel pump to carb, also!

Here are your part numbers you requested.

12541500 5/16"x25' steel tubing, cut bend, flare as required.



There ya go
Sorry for that type of reply, but I can't offer more.
Go to yard & seek with the options I offered or remove what ya got & bring to someone to make for ya.
Remember I'm in same boat as you, but mine is not damaged in need of replacement.
Sorry can't offer more
Good luck
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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For all of you suggesting that I make my own line, where do I get the nut that is needed? The one that holds the fuel line into the carb? I am not sure, but I dont think that a normal compression fitting style nut is used there?

And Ked I know your busy, so thank you for your assistance, if I can get a new nut, maybe Ill jus cut the line and make my own after all..cant be any worse then whats on the car now.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Hey, it's cool!
Seriously, it's ok
GO TO WRECKING YARD!
Go get from best ya can find there!
IF ya score it off a FWD car that's better due to EASIER ACCESS of this line assembly!!!!
The V6 engine & fuel line was "designed" with FWD cars in mind.
It's a PITA in our RWD platforms
GO TO THE YARD & SCORE WHAT YA NEED
THEN ya can do as I have for past 180,000 miles, use a small section of rubber hose feeding from Fuel pump to the hard line that runs to carb.
Get going & give us great news for yourself!
Serious, FWD cars & seeking this part will be your salvation!
On my Blazer?
I screwed up the line outta FP to that hard line.
I just cut hard line down by there & had a short section feeding outta pump.
Serious worked for over 180,000 miles!
Good luck I did the best for us.
cause now I know what I'm up against IF I screw up! I'm gonna have to do as I suggested to ya.
USE METRIC FLARE WRENCHES!!!!!
AND ALSO BRING SAE (US sized nut) wrenches, too. That'll fix ya fine OH AND DON'T FORGET VICE GRIPS!!!! and hack saw blade for cutting metal pipe off the donor car.
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