V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.
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GN MAF UPGRADE!! 70% more airflow potential, and plug and play!
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'730/'749 Conversion harness!! Screw MAF, we want MAP, even if it is more!
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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Car: Agood2.8,
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Originally posted by Dale
Dean, on your drawing. You sure their is enough belt contact on the crank?

I thought you were going to put an idler pully where the wp use to be.
You are correct Jay, I do have another version that I have posted in the past. I layed over the SC mount position if I go that route- it would make easy removal for smog.

Doward, I will take your word for it and trust that this is in fact something I am going to need in regards to the MAF. As long as I can easily replace the stock prom and the staock MAF I am set for the smog ****'s- thats cake
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2.8boy- I have biult this plenum with entirely spare parts and my original top plenum and stock TB go back on in the matter of about 5 mins with air tools-but you knew that already
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by 87blueracr
ya know i aint gonna disrespect doward by doing this on his thread.
You already have! Just like you do in every thread I have read that you have posted on. It seems like every six months or so someone comes onto the v6 board just to be argumentative (not that that is why blue is here, but it seems like it at times.) the usually get banned along with dean (who seems to get re-incarnated everywhere)

To all you guys prattling on about off topic arguing, that is what PMs are for. chew each other out there that way good informative TECH threads like this one don't get locked by mods due to pointless crap.

back to the matters at hand...

So is there an electric water pump conversion for our cars yet or is it simply a custom job?
If electric water pumps are so great why don't the cars come with them stock?
Is it due to the greater wear life of a mechanical pump as compared to an electric one?
What is the downside


i would like to give a special thanks to the dancing lock, without it much of this post would not have been possible.*

*lies.

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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Electric waterpumps have not been the most reliable things over the years but have recently improved quite a bit. I know a few using the Meziere electric LS1 pumps on their cars and have been great for street use. Those factory pumps are cam driven so the electric frees up rotation mass that the motor has to turn. Meziere has been a very reliable pump now for moderate life usage but I still would not recommend one for a car that sees heavt street usage and long milage roadtrips.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by RTFC
Electric waterpumps have not been the most reliable things over the years but have recently improved quite a bit. I know a few using the Meziere electric LS1 pumps on their cars and have been great for street use. Those factory pumps are cam driven so the electric frees up rotation mass that the motor has to turn. Meziere has been a very reliable pump now for moderate life usage but I still would not recommend one for a car that sees heavt street usage and long milage roadtrips.

The LS1 pumps are normal belt driven type, its the LT1 pumps that are cam driven.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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omfg I'm pissed.

GN MAF = our MAF, in a larger housing.

lol.. I don't know why, I just expected.... a bigger difference. Either way, it'll be an upgrade!

I pick it up Monday!
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Z28*****
The LS1 pumps are normal belt driven type, its the LT1 pumps that are cam driven.
See, I do sometimes make mistakes around here- sorry on the bad intel, I was tired. Cousin has a LT1 in his Impala, Father-in-law has a LS1 in his Vette (In my defence, I do know the difference). Thanks for the correction LS1 BLT GED NYPD LPG DNF WOT ............SOS.

John, Is it the same connections, or just the same inerts in a larger housing with a difference connection? and does that mean it will just plug and play with the current ECM?

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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oh, glad you told me, heavy street usage and road trips are my mioddle name. tony heavystreetuseandlongtrips gambino. NOT to be confused with my nickname Tony "no nickname is still a nickname" gambino.

for real though that sounds like a bad idea for me.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 04:54 AM
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I'm going to find out today if they are the same connections or not... If so, I will have a GN MAF on the car this weekend
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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if it is in a bigger housing wouldn't that make it not a direct fit?
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Ok, some updates.

1) I scored a '730 ECU CHEAP. Therefore, I will be running $58 code on a '730

2) GN Maf arrived today. Pigtail is slightly different. Going to see what can be done about that... but I've got the chip ready to roll with the GN MAF, see if it works or not
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