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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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single turbo install pics here

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/powe...-pictures.html
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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finally, been waiting forever. good job, some of thr piping looks a little sketchy, but other than that good job.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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thats because i didnt have any u or jbends,now that everything is fabed up,im gonna go ahead and order up the right tubing and make the pipes over,shouldnt take long since alls i have to do is copy the pipes i already have, still deciding on steel, or aluminum for the charge pipes
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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I thought you were switching to twins??
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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umm i had a few problems with the twins,like no way to connect the maf to 2 turbos , few room issues,and the dual inlet fmic i had didnt fit as well as i thought it would have,im still gonna do twins,but the first thing i need to do is get the donor car that has all the sd stuff i need,then i need to relocate the batt to the trunk,then i need to get a slightly smaller dual inlet fmic
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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thats really sweet, cant wait for the 1/4 and0-60 times. and i wouldnt be saying this is i didnt get ****ed over with a crack in my box, but you need a wonderbar if you dont have one, -i didnt see one in the video, especially with those 16's.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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the wonder bar was the first thing i did when i swape din the 1le sway bars, i also have a custom adjustable strut tower brace,its not on the car right now cause it dosent clear my fiberglass hood.the fiberglass hood has reinforcement strips under it,and it just so happens it just hits the edges of the stb by like 1/8th inch.so i need to modify that and put it back on. i noticed a huge diff when i took the stb off,specially runnig 255/45/zr-16s all the way around.dams things are almost 11.25 inches wide front and rear
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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If you put the effort you invest in those silly videos and rather into actually practicing your fabricating skills, you'd probably be finished and have something of quality to boast about.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 02:47 AM
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how much hp are you gonna gain with the turbo?

is it all self-built?
u might be able to sell as a kit in the future if u get a good result i think..
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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If you put the effort you invest in those silly videos and rather into actually practicing your fabricating skills, you'd probably be finished and have something of quality to boast about.
theres always one out of the group.for 1 its not staying like that.2 i used those pipes cause they were cheap.incase i ****ed something up.i didnt waste good tubing.3 now i have templates to make all new pipes out of good mandrel bends and stainless tubing.4 if u have no idea whats going on,keep ur coments to urself.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sogabe
how much hp are you gonna gain with the turbo?

is it all self-built?
u might be able to sell as a kit in the future if u get a good result i think..
sogabe the system is setup for 10 psi atm,i will be running the car at the track on thursday.so i will find out,then the following week the car gets dynoed.once all is said and done this thing will be running around 21#'s of boost,with a 35 shot of nitrous,and methanol injection.
i wont be selling kits cause they would cost to much money,and there not emissions legal.that and u have to ditch alot of stuff to make it fit the way i made it.i.e charcol can,windshield washer fluid container,cruise control,vacum ball,ac lines,and some other things
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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theres always one out of the group.for 1 its not staying like that.2 i used those pipes cause they were cheap.incase i ****ed something up.i didnt waste good tubing.3 now i have templates to make all new pipes out of good mandrel bends and stainless tubing.4 if u have no idea whats going on,keep ur coments to urself.
Make your template out of conduit like ABS pipe- Its cheaper, faster and you can twist the slip fits until you have the desired results. This is what I ment by the "sharpen your fabricating skills" comment. Study that and you will waste less time and money. But you took my suggestion as an attack.



...oh yeah,#5, keep your ears and mind open for helpful opinions, you just may learn something

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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the tubing i used cost me about 25$'s,so it was cheap enough i didnt care,usually i would have used flex pipe to make the first set of pipes but i didnt have any in the shop at the time.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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the tubing i used cost me about 25$'s,so it was cheap enough i didnt care,usually i would have used flex pipe to make the first set of pipes but i didnt have any in the shop at the time.
How are you able to use the welded together piece as a template? Thats what I am not uderstanding in your efforts. Are you planning on cutting each section back apart with a sawzall to match and lineup each bend and straight section with the new ones? You see with conduit, you simply mark the degree placement of each bend before you pull them apart and then simply mate up the steel pieces to each abs piece and tranfer the alignment marks. You do not glue together the ADS mockup pieces so that you can twist and adjust them until the dewsired fit- then simple mark and disasemble to match to steel pieces. The same method goes for roll cages.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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How are you able to use the welded together piece as a template? Thats what I am not uderstanding in your efforts. Are you planning on cutting each section back apart with a sawzall to match and lineup each bend and straight section with the new ones? You see with conduit, you simply mark the degree placement of each bend before you pull them apart and then simply mate up the steel pieces to each abs piece and tranfer the alignment marks. You do not glue together the ADS mockup pieces so that you can twist and adjust them until the dewsired fit- then simple mark and disasemble to match to steel pieces. The same method goes for roll cages.
i didnt mean to come off that meanlil bit mean yeah,but not ******* mean,but anyways i have to options now.i can send my pipes out to mark williams,and they can bend up mandrel bent one peice pipes that exactly match what i have now,minus the distortion in the bends,or i just buy j and u bends from summit or jegs,and i lay them onto of my pipes on the bench to match them up so they are the same and then weld them up
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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I vote custom bends, alot nicer looking.... oh and the picture of the viper i posted a while back that was turboed by two friends of mine at RSI here in houston... heres a video of it.Video - RSI Twin Turbo Viper vs. F-16 Fighting Falcon 0 - 3/4 Mile Race Guess who wins?
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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an update just fxed the last few driveabilty probs(surging idle and running rich)took the car out with wastegate set to 11 psi.i have 1 word BADASS!!!!
its making 6psi by 2,400 and full boost just before 3,000 rpms and pulls strong to 6,200,anything over that and the stock ign system falls on its face,i gota get the msd btm back in the car,im prolly gonna take the car to the track tonight and make 1 or 2 passes without the nitrous,im debating on turning the boost down to 9psi or just leaving it at 11
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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well!?! what are the times!?
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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13.21@115 due to traction problem @ 11 psi running lean no spray. *dances* i have passed what the stock ecm can handle even with custom chips,so im placing an order for a motec or aem stand alone fuel managment system tommorow and some 42lb injectors.
previous best was 14.8@92 all motor
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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cool...not too shabby. how did you "pass what the stock ecm can handle"? i'm assuming you did try to tune it?
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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nope the car is still on a stock tune,with base fp bumped to 52 psi.once this thing gets tunned it will be a rocket.car is capable of high 12's atm if i can find traction.was supposed to go back to the track today with slicks but i woke up to late
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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Surpassing what the stock ECU can handle is easy.. the MAF taps out crying very early into a positive-pressure project. It's difficult to surpass what the stock ECU can be made to handle, however... but it's easy to give up on the vast quantity of BS you have to go through to make it work

Personally the frequency film MAF system should be abandoned at all costs if you want this kind of thing done right. Be it DIY or aftermarket, almost anything is better than frequency film.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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i am going to sd setup,but ive been waiting about 2 weeks now to get my donor car.im getting to the point were im fed up with the maf system,even though ive got it running pretty good,im just having some idle/boost onset problems now.but im about 1-2 days from taking it off the car and selling the entire setup
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