Coolant Leak
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From: BFE, MD
Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
Engine: 5.7 / 7.4
Transmission: 6sp / TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.55 posi / 3.23
you will eventually forget the bolt is ther (if it doesn't leak even more) and then one dayyo'll wonder why the car is overheating.......
edit: just do it once, do it right.
edit: just do it once, do it right.
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From: somewheres is houston
Car: 1985 reliant saloon
Engine: 2.2 pile of metal
Transmission: 3 on the tree
Axle/Gears: so tall theres no point
if your water pump is bad, nothing will fix the problem.... even temporary, its just a bad idea. replace it..... youll save in the long run
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From: Spicer, MN
Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
Engine: L69, LG4, L69
Transmission: TH700-R4, TH700-R4, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.08, 3.73 Posi
yea really. just replace the thing.. spend the extra cash for the pump.. and save yourself possible 100's by doing things half ***ed. Nothing like a good overheating to hurt a motor.
Allright it was a stupid ideea. Today I took my water pump off. I was really worried about those star bolts that they would round. It all went smooth, maybe it was that liquid wrech stuff I tryed for the first time that did wonders. On a side note... who the **** designs these engines? Why in the world would they put one of the bolts holding the water pump under the power steering pump bracket which requires the removal of the A/C?
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From: Spicer, MN
Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
Engine: L69, LG4, L69
Transmission: TH700-R4, TH700-R4, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.08, 3.73 Posi
haha... Yea.. all the brackets on mine are connected in some way to the water pump except for the alt. the rest basically all have to come off... ti a pain... at least i removed my A/C so one less thing to deal with...
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One more thing. In Haynes it says something on these lines: on some older model 2.8 one of the bolts holding the water pump also hold the front cover(timing cover). It says you have tu put this bracket to prevent the cover seal from breaking. My firebird is from 87 or 88 (my insurance slip says it is 87 but I am pretty sure it is from 88) does that fall in the older model 2.8?
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From: Hawaii
Car: 89' Firebird / 87' Formula
Engine: 3.4 / 5.0
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / 3.42
so does that means you will have issues and break the timing chain cover seal when removing the water pump? Or completley different and have no problems with the newer engines? ?
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From: Spicer, MN
Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
Engine: L69, LG4, L69
Transmission: TH700-R4, TH700-R4, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.08, 3.73 Posi
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From: Castaic, CA
Car: 1988 Camaro RS
Engine: 2.8L of Raw POWER!!!
Transmission: Stick Shift
Axle/Gears: 3.42's
although, since you are already there, you might want to replace the timing chain and gears too. It's an extra 30 minutes and $40
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From: LeRoy, NY
Car: 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
Engine: 2.7L V6
Transmission: 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.41
:edit: Almost forgot. All 60* V6's are this way, whether old or new. It's just that the newer ones don't have the water pump mounted directly into the upper section of the timing cover. It's off to the side.
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From: North Central Mass.
Car: 1985 Berlinetta
Engine: Megasquirted TPI
Transmission: Transgo 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Hmm. I didn't have to take of any brackets when I did mine... Just the belts and it came right off.
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