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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Coolant Leak

Hello. I have a lot of coolant leaking through my weep hole. I know my water pump is gone but I was wondering what would happen if I would just stick a bolt in that hole?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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you will eventually forget the bolt is ther (if it doesn't leak even more) and then one dayyo'll wonder why the car is overheating.......

edit: just do it once, do it right.

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Will it temporarly fix the problem? At the moment I really dont have the time to do it right. A bolt takes 5 mins to insert
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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if your water pump is bad, nothing will fix the problem.... even temporary, its just a bad idea. replace it..... youll save in the long run
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 03:13 AM
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Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
Engine: L69, LG4, L69
Transmission: TH700-R4, TH700-R4, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.08, 3.73 Posi
yea really. just replace the thing.. spend the extra cash for the pump.. and save yourself possible 100's by doing things half ***ed. Nothing like a good overheating to hurt a motor.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Allright it was a stupid ideea. Today I took my water pump off. I was really worried about those star bolts that they would round. It all went smooth, maybe it was that liquid wrech stuff I tryed for the first time that did wonders. On a side note... who the **** designs these engines? Why in the world would they put one of the bolts holding the water pump under the power steering pump bracket which requires the removal of the A/C?
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
Engine: L69, LG4, L69
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Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.08, 3.73 Posi
haha... Yea.. all the brackets on mine are connected in some way to the water pump except for the alt. the rest basically all have to come off... ti a pain... at least i removed my A/C so one less thing to deal with...
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 05:51 AM
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well none of it actually has to come out, just unbolt the bracket and just move it over to the side. saves time and money.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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One more thing. In Haynes it says something on these lines: on some older model 2.8 one of the bolts holding the water pump also hold the front cover(timing cover). It says you have tu put this bracket to prevent the cover seal from breaking. My firebird is from 87 or 88 (my insurance slip says it is 87 but I am pretty sure it is from 88) does that fall in the older model 2.8?
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Nope, newer.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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so does that means you will have issues and break the timing chain cover seal when removing the water pump? Or completley different and have no problems with the newer engines? ?
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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Yea what do you mean by "nope, never"
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
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Yea what do you mean by "nope, never"
By the looks of it he said "Nope, Newer" it's a "W" instead of a "V"
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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OH doh. Thank you very much.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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although, since you are already there, you might want to replace the timing chain and gears too. It's an extra 30 minutes and $40
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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so does that means you will have issues and break the timing chain cover seal when removing the water pump? Or completley different and have no problems with the newer engines? ?
IIRC there are only four bolts that hold the WP on that DON'T hold the timing cover in place. You can remove the pump without having the timing cover come loose, however. The small bolts on the bottom of the pump get torqued to NO MORE than 15 lbs ft., since they are inserted into the aluminum timing cover, which WILL strip if over-torqued.

:edit: Almost forgot. All 60* V6's are this way, whether old or new. It's just that the newer ones don't have the water pump mounted directly into the upper section of the timing cover. It's off to the side.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Hmm. I didn't have to take of any brackets when I did mine... Just the belts and it came right off.
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