Turbo project '92 Firebird V6 3.1
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Car: '92 Firebird
Engine: 3.1 V6
Transmission: 700r4
Turbo project '92 Firebird V6 3.1
I would try build a turbo on my engine. But I don't know anything of a turbo.
So I hope this could with the know how of daves12secV6 and other people.
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Your turbo runs this on 3 or 6 cylinders? And why have you done this?
So I hope this could with the know how of daves12secV6 and other people.
To daves12secV6
Your turbo runs this on 3 or 6 cylinders? And why have you done this?
the turbo runs off all 6 cyls,if u only run it off 3 the engine will not run right,not to mention it would take forever for the turbo to spool up/kick in.
now if u ran 2 turbos u could run one off 3 cyls and the other turbo off the other 3 cyls
now if u ran 2 turbos u could run one off 3 cyls and the other turbo off the other 3 cyls
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Car: 1985 reliant saloon
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Axle/Gears: so tall theres no point
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Car: '92 Firebird
Engine: 3.1 V6
Transmission: 700r4
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Have you changed your ignition system for the turbo? Or is this still original?
Because the ignition timing is also important for the turbo!
Have you changed your ignition system for the turbo? Or is this still original?
Because the ignition timing is also important for the turbo!
Last edited by koen92firebird; Nov 14, 2006 at 10:32 AM.
u can run stock iginiton upto 9 psi,but after that the stock stuff becomes to weak.the stock timming curve is very conservative,so u really dont need any kind of timming retard untill u get into higher boost levels.i actually run my current engine at 10 psi with +4 aditional degrees of base timming,though i do aociasionally get some detonation and pinging.if i weree to back it off 2 degress it prolly wouldnt ping/detonate at all.
timming also depends on octane rating as well,the higher the rating the more timming u can run safely
timming also depends on octane rating as well,the higher the rating the more timming u can run safely
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Car: '92 Firebird
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Where have you placed the boostcontroller? And have you a maunual or electronic boost?
How many miles have your engine runs since the turbo setup? And have the engine always runs on 10 pounds of boost?
How many miles have your engine runs since the turbo setup? And have the engine always runs on 10 pounds of boost?
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its mounted nexto the battery it connects to the wastegate and allow u to turn the boost level up or down without changing the springs inside the wastegate,i dont have any pics offhand but i can take some tommorow
i use the stock ecm and chip,but i also run a mass airflow system,since ur car is a 3.1 u have a speed density system,i am unsure of how well it will work with a turbo system in stock form.
i have stock manifolds,though on my new engine im am building foward facing headers
i have stock manifolds,though on my new engine im am building foward facing headers
its mounted on the inlet sude of the turbo,i have a aprox 8inch long tub that goes to the turbo inlet that makes a 45* bend at the end the maf is hooked up there,with an air filter hooked to that.look in my howto thread i belive there are some pics in there
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Car: 1992 RS Camaro
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well i was thinking about building some off fwd manifols do you thing that will work. because i wana take a weekend to do my turbo and i dont wana be working on the headers forever
For all of you, I've found a website that has cheap mendrel bends in all sizes, including header kits and intercooler kits that start around $45 USD.
Here's the link...
http://store.racing-solutions.org/bendkits.html
Here's a link for silicone connectors and clamps...
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/hoseandclamps.htm
Both have lots of goodies that are better quality than e-bay perhaps.
Lookin forward to having someone doing this build at the same time as me!
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P.S. Welcome to thidgen!
im unsure of what the fwd manifolds look like,but id have to say the easiest way is to build the under k-member y pipe like i did.its cheap very effective,and dosent require welding to cast iron,which is hard enough in its own,u have to use nirod,and even then its still a bitch to weld
That's SWEEEET! Got a couple of questions, 1.What size turbos are those (I have a pair of a/r .48 exhaust.63 I was thinking of using)? 2.No wish to use an intercooler? 3. Is that a 3.1 w/ a speed density? 4. Did you build your own manifolds, and how hard were they?
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Wouldn't cost any more than your planning to spend now! If you don't use an intercooler, you could use that money to buy another turbo. The major concern would be building the manifolds, but the intake side is simpler.
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Wouldn't cost any more than your planning to spend now! If you don't use an intercooler, you could use that money to buy another turbo. The major concern would be building the manifolds, but the intake side is simpler.
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Car: 1991 Firebird
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Haha, calm Firstfirebird. That is not my car or engine. I saw that picture and was very impressed by it so I saved it. If I had the money and knowledge to do that, i'd definetly share it(only the knowledge though).
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If my memory is right thats not even in a camaro. I doubt if youd have enough room on the sides to mount the turbos there.
BTW, your car is sweet too...
I think there is enough under mine (Firebird). I was hoping to talk to someone about twin turbo. I mean daves12secv6 has been awsome about answering questions, but he's using a MAF setup and I need some answers on a MAP system. Does anybody know if the twins could be run into the intake (before the MAP) or would I have to run the MAP BEFORE the turbo (like daves)? I already have some turbos and the guy who gave them to me is really pushing for the twins (he has a tt300zx). He said I would be the only one around to have them, but now that I saw that pic from charcoalbird I see that SOMEONE has already done it, and I like it!
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The MAP sensor comes out of the back of the upper plenum. Also I just read that you could keep the MAP and stock chip if you ran a FMU.
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