My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
i was thinking stage 3 as well...best bang for the buck and i know i wont need anything stronger than that. not sure why the stage 2+ is more exepnsive really.
put on the new couplers today TB and a 90* so i can put an air filter on...unfortunatly the air filter is no here so ill have to put it the rest of the way on later.
ive got the car back at home for a few days dave so ill take care of what you needed when it cools off, its been stupid hot here lately
put on the new couplers today TB and a 90* so i can put an air filter on...unfortunatly the air filter is no here so ill have to put it the rest of the way on later.
ive got the car back at home for a few days dave so ill take care of what you needed when it cools off, its been stupid hot here lately
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
deff get rid of the hose clamp on the tb 2.5 inch side, and get some clamps on the airfilter elbow too,evn though its suction side the couplers still like to vibrate apar
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
i will just didnt feel like digging in the garage for a 2.5 clamp, same goes for the air filter once i get it
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
when project89 sends me my updated tune files does anyone want me to post them?
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
files are uploaded
and since noone ever reads the README files inside zip packages ill post it here as well
and since noone ever reads the README files inside zip packages ill post it here as well
open megasquirt with key on but engine not running
when ms sotware opens select file then select open
then select the file n1msq.msq ( all files located in the n1tunefiles folder) when prompted burn the values to the controler.
then the same way u exported the spark tables and fuel tables repeat the process except instead of export click on import and select the file for what u are updating n1fuel.vex for fuel and the other for spark tables
btw forgot to mention when u update the fuel and spark tables it will prompt u to burn the tables to the controller click yes
after u update the 3 files turn the key off and close the ms software
then turn the key back on to power cycle the ms and u are ready to go
if u have any issues itht he new settings open the ms software and goto file then open again and reload the defualt-safe.msq
if u still have issues i have include the base/safe fuel and spark maps tht u can put back into the ecm ( defualt/safe tune files are located in the tune files folder)
to datalog open the ms software click on file then datalogging then click record enter a file name and save the file to desktop before u shut the car off or close the software goto file and dataloging and click off
then u will have completed data logs u can send me for more fine tunning
ADDITIONS DONE IN THIS TUNE UPDATE
02 correction - turned on 10% athority in 1% steps per 16 ignition events
antirev - enabled - base settings NO action until 15% slip enrich and retard timing @15% slip.
spark cut at 30% slip and up
spark table - addition of more advance in cruise areas and some under boost
fuel table - fine tunning of cruise area's and leaning out some of the rich areas
rpm range - soft rpm upper limit set to 6300 rpms and absolute hard limit set to 6500
spark - fuel tables ---- all updated to reflect rpm changes and boost level increased to a max of 15 psi from 8 psi previous
iat/clt related spark rules - enabled the addition or subtraction of spark advance upto 5.3* advance when coolant temp is below 140 degress 1* per every 18* below 140* coolant temp until 4 psi of boost then it reverts back to standard timing map
under boost ecm will subtract 1* of timming from the base spark map per when boost is above 5 psi and iat's go above 160*. timming will be pulled 1* for every 20* above 160* iat temp
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TO DO LIST
boost control - enable and tune
target afr tables - enable
water/methanol injection - ???
when ms sotware opens select file then select open
then select the file n1msq.msq ( all files located in the n1tunefiles folder) when prompted burn the values to the controler.
then the same way u exported the spark tables and fuel tables repeat the process except instead of export click on import and select the file for what u are updating n1fuel.vex for fuel and the other for spark tables
btw forgot to mention when u update the fuel and spark tables it will prompt u to burn the tables to the controller click yes
after u update the 3 files turn the key off and close the ms software
then turn the key back on to power cycle the ms and u are ready to go
if u have any issues itht he new settings open the ms software and goto file then open again and reload the defualt-safe.msq
if u still have issues i have include the base/safe fuel and spark maps tht u can put back into the ecm ( defualt/safe tune files are located in the tune files folder)
to datalog open the ms software click on file then datalogging then click record enter a file name and save the file to desktop before u shut the car off or close the software goto file and dataloging and click off
then u will have completed data logs u can send me for more fine tunning
ADDITIONS DONE IN THIS TUNE UPDATE
02 correction - turned on 10% athority in 1% steps per 16 ignition events
antirev - enabled - base settings NO action until 15% slip enrich and retard timing @15% slip.
spark cut at 30% slip and up
spark table - addition of more advance in cruise areas and some under boost
fuel table - fine tunning of cruise area's and leaning out some of the rich areas
rpm range - soft rpm upper limit set to 6300 rpms and absolute hard limit set to 6500
spark - fuel tables ---- all updated to reflect rpm changes and boost level increased to a max of 15 psi from 8 psi previous
iat/clt related spark rules - enabled the addition or subtraction of spark advance upto 5.3* advance when coolant temp is below 140 degress 1* per every 18* below 140* coolant temp until 4 psi of boost then it reverts back to standard timing map
under boost ecm will subtract 1* of timming from the base spark map per when boost is above 5 psi and iat's go above 160*. timming will be pulled 1* for every 20* above 160* iat temp
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TO DO LIST
boost control - enable and tune
target afr tables - enable
water/methanol injection - ???
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
sweetness, i might go out and do that in a little bit. i was outside fixing clamps last night for about 10 mins before my shirt was soaked and i said screw it and came back inside lol
i saved the tune files that are in the car now on my laptop already just incase i needed to go back to them
i saved the tune files that are in the car now on my laptop already just incase i needed to go back to them
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
the files in the upper tune folder ( tune files) are the files out of the ecm right now, the n1 files are the updates, next update will be n2 then n3 n so on im zipiing them up so as i send them to u and u unzip them they will auto place themselves in the tune files folder but will create a new folder for each update so they all stay organized
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i also forgot to add i modified launch control to 2500 rpms and set the tps activation count to just about half throttle iinstead of just off idle
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i also forgot to add i modified launch control to 2500 rpms and set the tps activation count to just about half throttle iinstead of just off idle
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
cool, the car is going back to deadbirds maybe next weekend to start tearing it back down. ill probably wait to send you a datalog till after the exhaust leaks are fixed so that itll be more accurate
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
if u can pdate those files and go out tonight for a quick cruise ( datalog too) and let me know how it does the datalog will help with spark tables and such not to worried about afrs just yet
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i cant.. i need another clamp becuase one of the tb clamps broke, the one i got from pep-boys lol. ill try to get that to you this week though assuming it doesnt rain all week like its supposed to
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ahh lol ok ebay u can get 6 or 8 for the price of 1 at pepboys lol
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
Couple pics for the heck of it... first pic is where the oil line used to run, second shows where it is now(or actually doesnt show it at all since its hidden)
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
its not at the moment...i have on breather and the pcv is in the valve cover. i need to run a line for it still
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
Odd question: Is that the stock 3.4L V6 throttle body? Something else?
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its the 3.4L TB...i used pretty much everything off the 3.4 except the acces.
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WOW...I figured that would be a WOT-Tech throttle body for the amount of air you're pumping through it.
Will the 3x00 throttle bodies from WOT-Tech even fit on that plenum?
Will the 3x00 throttle bodies from WOT-Tech even fit on that plenum?
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i dunno..pic or link? the 3.4 tb bolts on diffrent then a 3.1
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Here's a link to WOT-Tech's page on their throttle body...
http://wot-tech.com/shop/all/65mm-bi...y/prod_24.html
Don't know if you can tell from those small pictures, or not...
http://wot-tech.com/shop/all/65mm-bi...y/prod_24.html
Don't know if you can tell from those small pictures, or not...
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I have nooooooo idea if that will work, anyone know? I'll have to research more when I get home
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well the air filter fits perfectly
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tb size is irevelvant on a turbocharged or centrifugal supercharged car. ur increasingthe density of the air passing threw it. so it is not a restriction.well i should say not at this point anyway, possibly if he upgrades to a turbo in the t66 to t76 size ange and pushes more then around 14 psi it may become a restriction
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a dyno run has been posted
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
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Okay, I don't think I'll be going with that big a turbo or that much boost. Probably gonna try to find something a bit bigger than a T04E. This guy used it on his 3400-swapped Cavalier:
http://www.v6z24.com/registry/89jyturbo/
I'm gonna try and get some advice/direction from STS, as they do a lot of work with remote-mount turbo setups. Any suggestions? Oh, did you get the PM I sent you, project89?
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Well...what were the numbers?!?!
Okay, I don't think I'll be going with that big a turbo or that much boost. Probably gonna try to find something a bit bigger than a T04E. This guy used it on his 3400-swapped Cavalier:
http://www.v6z24.com/registry/89jyturbo/
I'm gonna try and get some advice/direction from STS, as they do a lot of work with remote-mount turbo setups. Any suggestions? Oh, did you get the PM I sent you, project89?
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Well...what were the numbers?!?!
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well when im done with my turbo you can have it and ill get a bigger one lol
new thread started for that as i dont want to clog this one with argument about numbers
new thread started for that as i dont want to clog this one with argument about numbers
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updated tune in the n1.5 folder enjoy and dont forget to datalog as well the datalogs u got of u just cruising around were great just dont forget the wideband takes 30 seconds to go active after u start the car so wait when u start the car to drive around
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cool man ill try to get those on and ill datalog it when i take the car to deadbirds that way you can give the new tune a look while we tear the car back apart.
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hey whats the files in the n2 folder?
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its another update i was playing with u can delete the n2 folder for now
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u dont want to use the n2 files yet they have a much more agressive spark table
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k was just checking before i go out and update it
files updated, ill datalog it tomrrow
files updated, ill datalog it tomrrow
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i need a good 20-30 mins of u driving around in the datalog ( in one datalog not split up into multiple files)
after this next update u will have to tune the enrichment seetings urself this will be much faster then me doing it over email. ill walk u threw it
and btw the manual for the ms is in c:/program files/megasquirt/manual
after this next update u will have to tune the enrichment seetings urself this will be much faster then me doing it over email. ill walk u threw it
and btw the manual for the ms is in c:/program files/megasquirt/manual
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cool..its gonna take a lot of walking through lol
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new tune in n1.6 dont worryabout the targetafr tables yet they arent activated
the problem is the acceleration enrichments i backed them way off the motor was going dead rich everytime u would hit the throttle
i also turned off o2 correction for the time being till we get the acel enrichments right
u gota let me know if the car stumbles or backfires when u press the throttle now once its warmed up
also let me know if it does anything else stupid
the problem is the acceleration enrichments i backed them way off the motor was going dead rich everytime u would hit the throttle
i also turned off o2 correction for the time being till we get the acel enrichments right
u gota let me know if the car stumbles or backfires when u press the throttle now once its warmed up
also let me know if it does anything else stupid
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cool, yeah ill get a better datalog and give you a more detailed description of problems once its back together. that way all the exhaust leaks will be fixed and the exhaust totally hooked up and we can go from there. not sure when it will be back together probably a couple weeks.
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forgot to tell u the motor is still having a spark issue with those plugs
deff ditch them for some acdelco r42tsk's or r42ts i forgoet which are the right ones just look up the stock acdlco plug and go down one heat range stock is a 43 i think though certian year cars came with 42's
deff ditch them for some acdelco r42tsk's or r42ts i forgoet which are the right ones just look up the stock acdlco plug and go down one heat range stock is a 43 i think though certian year cars came with 42's
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS 25th Anniversary
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
oh i suppose i could do that while the motor is apart as well. so just look up a stock plug and go one number down? i cant really remember how the heat range/part numbers run
whats the gap i need to use?
whats the gap i need to use?
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
ac delco standard plug for the 2.8, 3.1, and 3.4
R43TSK
Autozone lists a
R42TS
which i would assume is the one your talking about
R43TSK
Autozone lists a
R42TS
which i would assume is the one your talking about
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
yes the r42ts the k denotes special on the factory plug but i have never been able to figure out what "special" means
gap them at .025-.028
the lower the number the colder the plug
i don belive there is anything colder then the 42 though ,and the 42's are what i run in my car
gap them at .025-.028
the lower the number the colder the plug
i don belive there is anything colder then the 42 though ,and the 42's are what i run in my car
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
here is a pic of the hotside sand blasted...great job deadbird
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look at that sexy turbo hotside
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wow those look pretty damn shiny lol, did you just do those?
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looks like he should have that stuff done shortly, reassembly might start tomorrow. ill pick up plugs as well as add the new tune in
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Re: My 3.4 t3/t4 Turbo Build
u shouldnt see temps that high but they may get close