I hear I have to do some extra fabrication to fit headers on my 3.1. Has anyone done this that can tell me what they've done?

Thanks

Vaughn

 

it depends on which ones you buy, i had to remove my egr system and my AIR pump. i have a set of stainless ones if your interested

its not a hard thing to do

 

Which headers are you talking about?

 

I'd like to be able to pass smog. Anybody passing calis smog test with headers on?

 

Can't pass smog with headers because there is no fitting for the AIR pipe in the pass side header...

 

We're talking about the PaceSetter headers, right?

 

No 60* headers have the provision for the AIR system... A lot don't even have the provision for the EGR, depending on the age of the headers (PF&E, Hedman).

 

Do you know whether or not the PaceSetter headers have the provision for the EGR hook-up?

 

My Pace-setters have the EGR provision. Im not sure if there is any difference between the ceramic ones or not but I have the non-ceramic ones FWIW

 

Hey man where did you get it? Or do you have a part no. I really want headers but I also want to pass smog here in Cali.

 

Doesn't anybody use the "search" function anymore? In a previous thread, I posted my numbers on emissions testing four days after the install on a major build.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/4...its-alive.html

So, YES, no AIR system (only needed when the engine is cold). YES, there is an EGR port on the right-hand-side of the headers.

 

I've read your thread and enjoyed it. Contests on your build. My problem is I don't know if I need the air pump or not to pass californias smog test seeing as the air pump originates with a hose coming from the smog pump. I'm going to go ask a local smog guy and bring results for any v6 guys like me in Cali.

 

http://www.partstrain.com/store/?PN=...universal:0%29

Got mine from Partstrain, they are cheaper then summit.

 

You can't pass smog in CA with the PaceSetters. It says so right on their website, that the headers are only 49 state legal, with CA having said "No way, Jose!".

It appears that CA maintains that every car MUST have ALL of its original emissions control equipment to pass state emissions inspection.

 

But since the Pacesetters have the EGR on it then why wouldn't he pass?

If you do get Pacesetters GET THE CERAMIC COATED HEADERS. Trust me! The regular headers will rot out quick! They did on my camaro

 

Yeah the guy at the smog shop Said exactly that. Even the air injection system. If anyone finds carb approved headers for our v6, spread the word please.

 

Seems to me you could modify the pacesetters to accept AIR?

It would need the tubes welded, but if you could do that I can't see why that would be a problem. I haven't seen it done on a V6 before though. Not saying it's practical, but it's certainly possible

 

even if u get air tubes on the headers have to be CARB approved for cali use. no CARB number automatic fail.

 

That hasn't stopped anyone with "Dyno Don's" headers from passing though, his have no CARB number.

 

i think basically what everyone is saying is they arent "technically" legal to use in CA in most cases. if you get by with it awesome. its your choice but either way youll have to modify them in some way.