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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Just took dist cap off ...

What should a bad dist cap and rotor look like ?
My cap , on the little metal pieces on the inside (that are connected to each connector on the outside) All have a funky flaky green looking crapola on them .The metal piece (round piece) don't know if thats the rotor or not , its rusty looking .Can this be scraped off or is it just time for a replacement .I could not find any "how to" articles on how to do this whole procedure .Thanx guys !

Also , the top circle thing that connects to the cap , is burned looking black on the inside of the center circle , but the little piece of metal coming out from it has some kinda yellowish white looking on it

I wish my digital camera was working , id take some pics , but when I bought it they gave me a bad memory card and im waiting for the new one to come in !

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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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Well I decided to go ahead and take the wires off to check the plugs .The plugs are all in real good shape but that second wire next to the EGR valve is burnt and cracked once again . I just knew this wire out of my new wire set would last b/c there really good wires . I paid $50 bucks for them , there the spiral core .Think my EGR pipe as a leak in it ? Or should I just get some heat sleaves ?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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come on guys , I know someone can shoot me some help
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Sounds like you have aheat transfer problem. Some how your sparks are arcking inside the cap. What kind of coil r u using?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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Sounds like you have aheat transfer problem. Some how your sparks are arcking inside the cap. What kind of coil r u using?

Oh and you digital carera should have soome internal memory, so you can take pictures.



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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Thanx ! ...I have just an regular old Ac delco coil I belive ...but let me go check an old receipt just to be sure .
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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it's an ac delco
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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I would say if you had an Accel Coil that i would expect the the problem your having do to a high out put by the coil in to a OEM AC Delco Cap a rotor.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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My suggestion would be to have your ALT checked out it might be going bad. An ALT can go bad in two ways.

1. It can put no voltage
2. It can put out like 58.93 volt out and blow up your battery and coil.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by fiream
My suggestion would be to have your ALT checked out it might be going bad. An ALT can go bad in two ways.

1. It can put no voltage
2. It can put out like 58.93 volt out and blow up your battery and coil.
are you talking about altenator ?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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yeah

if your altenator is on the fritz it might create that problem
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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You know how when you see a house or something burn and you see part of it black from smoke but not from the fire .Well when I checked all my plugs the white part (insulater) part of the plugs all were smoky black looking .Not real black , but they were all smoky black looking .That doest not seem normal to me .
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:15 PM
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For that plug wire I would use some heat sleves. The dam wire sits to close to the EGR pipe. As for your plugs that may just be a little bit of rubber on them. They get realy hot and the rubber can melt just a tad and transfer a thin film. Or are you talking about the porcilin part that is near the electrode?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by BitchinRS
For that plug wire I would use some heat sleves. The dam wire sits to close to the EGR pipe. As for your plugs that may just be a little bit of rubber on them. They get realy hot and the rubber can melt just a tad and transfer a thin film. Or are you talking about the porcilin part that is near the electrode?
No , Im not talking about the part near the electrode .You could be very right about the rubber melting a tad bit .But , my boots are red , wouldn't be red ? or would it matter what color the boots are ? heh
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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Yeah it would most likely be red. I all ways had black boots so I assumed you did to. HUUUMMMM I'm not sure what would cause that to happen. I see it on mine all the time once the plugs have been in for a couple of 1000 miles and never thought twice about it.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by BitchinRS
For that plug wire I would use some heat sleves. The dam wire sits to close to the EGR pipe. As for your plugs that may just be a little bit of rubber on them. They get realy hot and the rubber can melt just a tad and transfer a thin film. Or are you talking about the porcilin part that is near the electrode?
oooo I was so pissed when I took that plugwire off and saw the boot on it ( real white on one part , black on another part) ..I was so pissed cus those wires arent cheap .I had some extra wires sence they are universal but I was still mad ..Gm fu(*ed up when they made the pipe that close huh ?

And dood , I've had those wires on my car for 2 months now .So that wire only lasted 2 months !

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Old Feb 23, 2002 | 07:35 AM
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Check the center of your rotor button to make sure a hole isnt worn through it . The crusty stuff on the inside of the cap is normal wear , if its real bad I would replace the cap and rotor button.
The sparkplugs, The porcelain near the electrode should be a light brown after a couple thousand miles on them. If they are black that usually means the engine is a little rich on fuel. If they are white and crusty than the engine is running too lean . If they are black and oily than your oil rings are wore.
Hope this helps a little.

By the Way , I saw your tranny post abbout the loose dipstick . On most cars I have seen the this tranny stick tube just goes down in the tranny and there is an o=ring or a little rubber seal that seals it and there is a metal tab on the tube that is usually bolted to the bell housing via engine -tranny mounting bolts.
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Old Feb 23, 2002 | 08:39 AM
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Check the center of your rotor button to make sure a hole isnt worn through it . The crusty stuff on the inside of the cap is normal wear , if its real bad I would replace the cap and rotor button.
The sparkplugs, The porcelain near the electrode should be a light brown after a couple thousand miles on them. If they are black that usually means the engine is a little rich on fuel. If they are white and crusty than the engine is running too lean . If they are black and oily than your oil rings are wore.
Hope this helps a little.

By the Way , I saw your tranny post abbout the loose dipstick . On most cars I have seen the this tranny stick tube just goes down in the tranny and there is an o=ring or a little rubber seal that seals it and there is a metal tab on the tube that is usually bolted to the bell housing via engine -tranny mounting bolts.
It's the porcelon part where the plugwire goes over that was smoky black , not real smoky black , but i've never seen sparkplugs like that before ..Thanx !
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Old Feb 23, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Thats not unusual . Its just some of the inner coating coming off of the boot caused by the heat. Dielectric grease in the boots before you put them back on the plug will help remedy this.
I wouldnt lose sleep over it . It shouldnt hinder performance at all.
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Old Feb 23, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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Thats not unusual . Its just some of the inner coating coming off of the boot caused by the heat. Dielectric grease in the boots before you put them back on the plug will help remedy this.
I wouldnt lose sleep over it . It shouldnt hinder performance at all.
Thanx bro ! Just making sure . I changed that plugwire , I put an old plugwire on there that is still good in place until my sparkplug boot protector comes in from summit
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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I have that problem that wire aways goes bad on me the GM heat shields suck i have the MSD 8.0 wires and havent had any problems with them and they have no heat shield
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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I have that problem that wire aways goes bad on me the GM heat shields suck i have the MSD 8.0 wires and havent had any problems with them and they have no heat shield
Well , I put accels on there thinking , they will last , the wires are doing great so far .But the true test will be in a year .But that one wire boot by the EGR valve I toasted it again .Just new I wouldn't cus these $50 8mm accel wires .Well my heatsleave should be coming in from SUMMIT this week .If it does not work , looks like I will be going to MSD wires once I use my extra boots up .
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