on the line , on the drivers side , the big bolt with the line going through it , is there a rubber O ringfor this ? There is a washer on it , but I dont remember if it came with an O ring or not Thanx guys !

 

I have a 92. But fuel system basically the same. 2 hoses come up from fire wall. Those bolt into aluminum distrib block. Theres a aluminum spacer/gasket with rubber recessed O rings. then Fuel rail. 3? or 2 bolts hold down fuel rail to lower intake.

 

Do parts stores have those , or are those gm ordered ? the rubber o-ring that is

 

There should be o-rings. They're supposed to be (I think) a nitrile o-ring, which means it resists fuel. A regular rubber one might do for a day or three. Look inside the fuel rail and see if the original is stuck in there.

By the way, there are also o-rings on the end of the lines that go into the fuel filter. If one gets stuck in the old filter, and you install a line without the o-ring, you'll get a leak...

 

If I dont see it in the fuel rail , is this a replacement o-ring ? Can I get it from a parts store or gm ? Thanx for all your help Tom ...Thanx to you also Drew .

 

Ok , UPDATE , I took the line off . The metal gasket (which I thought was metal , is a gasket smaller in diameter than I thought it was , has a green gooey crap in the center going around it , then the metal ? Is this the gasket that resist fuel ? Do I need to buy another one ? Or some kinda gooey stuff to put back on it again ?

 

Hm, not sure, I don't remember a metal gasket being anywhere on the fuel lines.

You might find the o-rings at a parts store. I know Pep Boys has some metal drawers in their hardware aisle, by the lugnuts, and they sell packages of o-rings. Some might be meant for fuel. You could always call up a GM dealer and see what they say; one o-ring might be $5 but it might be worth it at this point!

 

that metal gasket thing is dealer only...

 

I'm totally lost in this thread, I'm not even gonna try to figure out whats going on now.

The O-rings for the fuel lines are available from any parts store, just ask the counter person and they'll find em for you. They should be brown, not black. BTW the OEM pieces are black, the aftermarket ones aren't.

I have no idea what you're talking about with the metal gasket? Sounds like you need a GM shop manual for your car or a digital camera.

 

there is an aluminum spacer/gasket between the fuel block(that is attched to the fuel hoses) and the fuel rail. It has 2 holes with a embedded black rubber rings. The fuek block I am referring to is under the part that the 2 fuel lines are attached to. The block has has 3 small allen bolts, and the part(that I am talking about) slips under that. I went to Auto Zone and the guy knew exactly what I was asking for and told me go to the dealer.

 

I ended up going to the dealer to the the part , and went ahead and got another part with it that I think I lost , two washers . I had to buy a nut or something with it , turns out to be $15.00 , but I want this sealing proper , I dont want any gas on the fuel rail while my car is running ! Don't wanna go "booom"

 

Ok, but why would you remove that block? I've had 4 Fiero fuel rails apart without a problem, never had to remove the block... I was polishing the fuel rails otherwise they never wood have been apart.

 

if oyu are removing injectors... to get it outta the way. and you do not have to pull the metal hoses around tring to get htem lined up. Leave the block on the fuel lines... remove block. easier to get IT lined up then the fuel lines...

 

Well look at that; I agree with Drew again! (What's going on here?)

Let us know how the car goes, Wayne... doesn't it suck when something like this happens? A job that's supposed to take a couple hours winds up taking a few days... grr...

 

... Not enough asstericks in the world.. Everyone here knows we hate each other... so go swap your 2.8 for another 2.8... dumb ***...

 

I have found it a hellofalot easier to leave that small block to the hoses and just have to line it up and not fight 2 fuel hoses... But hell if you like doing thing s the hard way tom go for it.

I did my injectors and the first time i took out the hoses and left the block on the rail... It was a Biatch to get the hoses back in right. so the next time I left the block on the hoses and just had to line up that one part.. Needless to say ALOT EASIER... But hey its up to you..

 

Man, you're an idiot. Do you pay attention to anything that goes on around here??

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In fact, I just realized something: I did the exact same thing when I helped my friend do his engine swap. Check out picture #5, the one of the Camaro "right before pulling the frozen 2.8 out"- what's that hanging over the driver's side fender?

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Could it be fuel hoses, connected to a fuel rail? I bet it is!

That's the picture in the middle of the second row, of the Camaro almost "head on", during the day.

 

Hey tom when did you think I would read any of your ****?!?!?!?! I stopped reading your stuff much less paying any kind of attention to you a whie back!:lala: :lala:

 

Tell me about it man ! It's been almost a week now sence its been running .Mostly because the part store was not open when I needed it to be , then even if it was the gm dealer would not have been open either .But I think it will be worth it . I was kinda scared to crank the car up for the first time when I did b/c of disconecting vacumn lines and plug-ins .I guess taking the upper manifold off for the first time kinda scared me to .This was (well is) my first kinda big job to do on a car .I know you guys dont think its big , but compared to what I have done . In the past , I only changed a starter , powersteering pump , heater blower hoses , plugs and wires .

 

Always something interesting going on around here ..I think I missed something though ...

 

Fuel lines on the 2.8 must be different from the 3.1 cause the 3.1 hardlines snake thru the accessories and is bolted to the front of the engine block.

cant we all just get along?

ps Hey tomp, how about the nekkid pics of your friends GF?

 

the hard lines on my car come from the fire wall... in the rear. does not give alot of room to play with.

 

Haha, if it was my friend's girlfriend, I'd try for ya, but she's my girl, can't do it!

The 2.8's hard lines come up along the driver's side main framerail. Then they meet the fuel hoses. The hoses go up and wind up behind the a/c compressor, where they meet the hard fuel lines that go across the front of the motor. There's a clip there, held with a 10mm (i think) screw, which anchors the engine-side hard lines to the motor. Then, the hard lines go across the top of the engine. They snake out by the thermostat, and then curve backward. I think this is where the second clip is. They go thru the middle of the plenum, and enter the fuel rail from behind.

 

whats all this talk now of hardlines and pics of nekid girls ?

 

NIPPLEZ!!!!!


Back to tech, did you get that damn car running yet?

 

Quit the fighting before I go through and delete each one of your posts (the thread still has technical value)

 

heh , its running , i had it running yesterday , I just need that gasket for the line (hardline ) on the drivers side fuel line . IM SO glad I checked for leaks and I found that , or otherwise it would have been "BOOOM" Tomorrow it will be drivable !!!! Im picking up the gasket and few other parts that come with it that I dont need at the dealer tomorrow at 8:30 am

 

Ya'll should see three of my old injectors . They are spider web cracked bad at the pintle/nozzle end that goes into the motor .These injectors must have been leaking horrible huh ?

 

Kinda like the extra nouns, pronouns, verbs and adverbs I saw.
Lord a Mercy!
The Adjatives really bounced for a spell there, too!

 

Glad to hear it's running -safely- again!! Keep those old injectors.. have 'em flowtested by Rich J, and sell 'em on Ebay. Rich will install new pintle caps and o-rings as part of the service.

And no problem, Overclk, you got it! I apologize to the group.

 

Why try to resell the injectors? No one buys used injectors... I've had these 3.4L DOHC injectors for sale for what, a year now?