LS1eater

OK, F- Body motorsports had a shootout at Mooresville dragway last night. Now, first off, I own a Firebird... I've dealt with F- body Motorsports (Third Gen Resource) in the past.... they are great people to do business with. Now anyone who knows me, knows that I run my mouth.... I was joking around with some friend about a few of the older model Camaro's out there (My type year) and one of their employees got a hot coal jammed up his *** (figuratively speaking) (I hope). He came over and started running his mouth that I needed to put my (factory) mustang in the event. OK, well, after we had a little chat things seemed straight. One of their other employees decided to run over and threaten fighting... harrasing me, getting in my face and cursing me to no end. Now is it just me or should an employee of a company that is throwing an event not have alittle more restraint? Personally, I'd do business with F-body all day long, and will continue to whenever I need anything for my Firebird, BUT I will refuse to deal with any of said members. I would NOT have any of their childish, un educated hands on my car. Anyway, on the racing note.... event was fun. Most of the cars there were not running up to their potential though. I'm guessing they were vehicles that Stacy (part owner who is no longer a part of the shop) had tuned. I've personnaly seen some of her comp tunes drop a car 20-30 hp... that was unrecoverable... other than by restoring the comp settings to factory. Anyway, I'm sure none of you care but the mustang ran well, beat a GTO, a few SS', and whatever else I ran.... but most of that was driver ability of the participants as apposed to vehicle. (Did I mention my mustang is factory? 95'... gt... somethings wrong, 350/350?) LoL Ah well, done for now, to keep it short, F- Body = good, employees.... Well, request Roy be the ONLY one who touches your car. nOr looks at it for that matter.

CaysE

I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here. You are one of the very few that have had a good experience with those deadbeats, and typically, the only people that do have good experiences are those that live nearby and can pick up the parts they need themselves. Feel free to browse around this forum for other reviews of their sorry business practices.

It's good to hear you had a good time though, and we always welcome other Mustang owners, as well!

BT283

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I was at that show. But why would you go to an F-Body Show and run your mouth about F-Bodys?? Just asking.

BT283

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P.S. You shouldnt be encouraging him either, or for that matter talking crap about F-Body Motorsports. It is a good SOUTHERN company that does mess up orders sometimes but so does Jegs and Summit and everyone else for that matter. And oh yeah Why would you bring a Mustang to an F-Body Show anyway. And most of my friends own Mustangs and everyone of them will amit that a 94 and up GT (stock) cant out run a fart in the wind. Isnt Thirggen.org an F-Body website CaysE???

92blue

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These guys have written the book on how to scam customers and **** people off. I have yet to hear of Summit or Jegs refuse to correct a mistake on their part. It really tells you how good of a SOUTHERN company they run when you order center caps for a 92 Camaro with 16" aluminum rims, they send you center caps for a mid 80s 15" wheel, and then keep some of your money when you send them back to exchange for the "right part". After who knows how many phone calls to find out if they got the return and if they will be sending the right center caps (figure about 3 weeks later), they tell you that they have never sold the center caps I needed new. Why did they take my order in the first place?

What does that say about them as a company?

NoItsNotForSale

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I will never buy from them again. If you beat a new GTO with a stock mustang there must have been a monkey driving it.

CaptPicardsZ28

Sounds to me like a few F-body motorsport people trying to drum up some pathetic business from us. You can't even compare them to Summit or Jegs. It's like trying to compare a 2002 Camaro SS to a 1990 Geo Metro. What a joke. There's a reason why they are no longer sponsors of this forum.

BT283

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Its not comparing them to Summit or Jegs it is saying that from MY experince with Summit and Jegs and other nameless companies everyone has screwed up my order by sending wrong parts or taking up to 3 months to get them. What i am saying is that you shouldnt come on to an F-Body car event and thrash on F-Bodys. Because the F-Body he was talkin about has about a 99.9999% chance it will smoke him.

crazy3rdgen

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ummmmm


FBODYMOTORSPORTS= Bad and should go out of buisness


EMPLOYEES OF FBODYMOTORSPORTS = Should quit and get a diff job

FSTFBDY

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I never dealth with F-Body Motor Sports. so I cant say anything.

but what I will say is did any of you read a damm thing he said.


Here look at his 1st few sentences....



looks like he has a F-body and a Mustang... Give the guy a break.. Ive owned a few stangs and camaros at the same time...

CaysE

And I shouldn't because why? Go read the other FBM threads before you make a snap judgement.
Yes. Did you miss the part where this thread is about F-bodymotorsports and the original poster owns a Firebird?
Nameless companies??? This is a joke, right? If you love FBM (Foul Bowel Movement), good for you. You will find very, VERY little support for them here, though.
Now this I can agree with.

LS1eater

Hmmm, apparently people are very opinionated on their grounds with F- Body Motorsports. Well, I'll say you have your right to be. Back a few years ago, and even just recently there have been some bad descision made on their part, and their employees... well, I won't state my opinion on them out of the kindness of my heart. But as of late it's been turning around, Roy is a great guy to deal with, and yes I do live close enough that I can pick up the parts myself so as far as shipping and all that I wouldn't know. But my FireBird is an 87' Pro-Am. For those of you who know the history of the car you can understand why I'd speak highly of Roy, who on many an occassion has gone out of his way to get me bdy parts (Hood scoop, ground effects, emblems, wood grain interior) to restore it to it's factory splendor. Stacy, who I have a severe dislike for, is never to be found at the shop anymore. From what I've heard, and seen on many an ocasion.... she was the downfall, what brought that shop down from what it could be. Well, aside from the mechanics... if you can call them that. And in response to the making fun of the F- bodies at an F- body convention... I own one. I'm allowed to joke on a car that I own first off. Second off, there's a mustang performance shop here in my town called DSE speed that I assist with work from time to time.... them and F-body were talking about having a shoot out, fords vs. chevy's. It's an on going war... ford vs. chevy... bantering is always gonna be there. it's just a matter of people needing to grow the hell up. If I wanna joke with a friend of mine about a car thats about to run, why can't I? Is it any business of someone else to come over and start running their mouth because of something I said to a friend of mine joking? And second off, if an employee of a shop wants to show this kind of immaturity how the hell can we expect to hold a business related (as well as entertaining) show? the ford guys that I hang out with aren't gonna wanna fight someone because of the fact that someone called there car slow... plain and simple... take it to the track. If you win you win... you lose you lose. You wanna fight over it, leave the strip, buy a honda so that racing isn't even an option, get out of the performance field of work, sit at home, watch cartoons and play video games. Re apply for employment when you've hit puberty... ok, well, enough for now... I'll be expecting another attack or two. People have a tendency to not READ but browse... miss key points, and find something to argue about. For the rest of you, I drive a mustang... I own a firebird... it's a car, right? LoL, I'll talk to you all later

Difflock

Like serving fries maybe? Mind you it sounds like the'd put too much salt on them.

Most unprofessional of the employees at their own show (or any show!)

BTW my work colleagues have made fun of my car (84 Trans Am - VIN says 85, long story!). They've called it a Poncy-ac before now and keep asking when I'll get a perm and a casual leather jacket
Having a Knight Rider tone on my cell phone is enough I say, and "NO-ONE MESSES WITH THE HOFF!"

You need a sense of humour owning a US car in the UK.

Mark.

CaysE

I know first-hand that Stacy acts like a lunatic. But I'd be surprised if that company can actually turn around and cater to the thirdgen community successfully, even without Stacy there. They've gone through a number of "we're getting better" phases and it's never lasted long. I honestly believe they would be better off dropping thirdgen support entirely in favor of their fourth gen work base. Maybe even drop their website and shipping departments, too, so they can focus on what they're good at: local support and tuning (well, I've heard Roy can tune a car well, but I don't know first hand).

LS1eater

Yea, I personally haven't had much tuning experience with Roy either. Like I said, I don't know much about their shipping and out of state sales either. As far as my third-gen awhile ago they were a great help. Now I'd have to agree that they'd be more fourth gen orientated. I know that if you ARE capable of going up there first hand and picking up stuff yourself, and talking with people, Roy is a good guy to deal with. I'm also growing quite fond of that LS1 third gen they built. Saw it running 8.50's at the track, (1/8 mile) not bad for a third gen with an LS1 and not much else. Like I also said, I can't agrue the fact that their employees are severely incompetent and immature. Ah well, point is made, and I'm glad that there are people out there who agree with me. I'm a very opinionated person, so when that happens it saves alot of arguement and mute points, LoL.

scottmoyer

One of their employees considers himself a 3rd gen expert! 2 years ago, he docked me points for missing the hush panels at the fbody gathering in Atlanta. If he was an expert, he would have known that the interior courtesy lights wouldn't have a special bracket under the dash if the hush panels were installed. He came off very cocky and convinced the other judges that my car wasn't complete!! They believed he was the expert he claimed to be. I didn't care for this guy too much!!!

CaysE

LOL I remember that fiasco. We spent a good 2 weeks trying to figure out what determines whether or not a car came with hush panels. I'm still not even sure!

scottmoyer

Nobody is sure. I have seen some '87 cars that have the same options as mine and they have the hush panels. Who knows. I woud expect that an expert in the restoration and parts of 3rd gens would have seen more than some of us.

Yossarian14

I dont care who you are but I feel there is not a single positive thing about their online buisness.

*I dont was to deal with employees who aren't smart enough to not get in a fight with one of their customers and their own event.

*They do not have anyone covering the phones during a usual 2 hours period known as their lunch break which is rediculous.

*They are not polite when you answer and have no clue what their talking about. I had to explain to one what a kick panel was and that took me 10 minutes somehow to do.

*Their shipping is horrible, they told me parts would be here within two weeks which is long to begin with and after 4 weeks I have to call them and remind them to ship the part.

*After having to remind them to ship it they ship me the wrong hood insulation and charge me 40 bucks to ship it.

*I just cant believe there employees, omg their complete asses.

soulbounder

Back on the 03 HR Powertour I came across a thirdgen with an LS1. The owner handed me a catalog with thirdgen resource or fbody motorsports (don't remember which, doesn't matter though) on it. I cannot remember his name for anything but I do remember that it didn't seem like he was very friendly at all. Good companies start with good people so if it's as bad as everyone says, I don't see fbodymotorsports turning around for the thirdgen crowd.

erummel

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I have had a few conversations with Roy and only one transaction (a used tire), and each time I spoke with him, in person mind you, it seemed that it was such a bother for him to have to talk with me.

I have to wonder just how much business they have sent to More Performance based on the customer service many have received?

firerider76

I know I will never business with them again. Their prices are too high, service is absolutely horrid and shipping times are a joke.
I bought a set of seat covers from them for like 350.00 I think ,it took me about 3 months to actually get them.
One time is all it takes for me.

P.S. Never had any trouble from summit or jeg's ( my favorite suppliers of all)

Don 79 TA

F' n week and change and i still don't have my F'n console that was supposed to be deleivered last week.

they will get a phone call from me tomorrow
cancelling the order

and i will dispute the charge with the CC company

Piece of crap place to do business with

DO NOT commit if you CAN NOT deiver

or at least have the common curtousy to call

They lost ALL potential business with me

Don 79 TA

well i cancelled my order
got a BS story that they are waiting on parts

funny how they took my order and said no problem shipping
now all of a sudden no parts
*** EM

and no phone call or message or email

BAD
very bad

i said i have to have it now, they are like sorry have no idea when
i said cancel
then all of a sudden
oh wait we can have it for Monday

i said FORGET it
cancel

wont ever use them agian
and i hope no one else does.

whiteshadow87

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I work at F-body motorsports. I am not one of the employees that confronted you. Had you come to the show, actted civilized like everyone else there and not run your mouth, that little incident would not have occured. We didnt have a problem with anybody being there, we just had a problem with people running their mouths for no reason. No, the certain employees should not have ran their mouths back to you, but you should have had enough respect to not have said anything bad about cars at the show. Period. No matter who it was you were talking to. Having said that, I am one of the mechanics at the shop and if you dont want us to touch your car, its not hurting our feelings. Why is it that you can say we dont know what we are doing? We must know something since we have cars lined up for us to work on. If you said that because you thought it was the mechanics confronting you, you are mistaking. As far as Stacey's tuneing goes, she has never lost power in tunigs. The cars always come out having more. The car you are talking about that lost power lost it due to torque management. Stacey promptly reset it. The car did not end up with less power. Now on to the car. I do believe that we let you us our shop and tools to put the headers on your "factory" car. Did we not? It might just be me, but i dont consider that to be factory. Also. I lined up against your car and ran it. My car is a near stock TPI one-wheeled wonder, having only a cat-back exhaust and barely shifting transmission. My car did win, granted it was not by much though. Im did not post to start a war or anything. I just posted to clear a few things up.

CaysE

I honestly feel bad for you, whiteshadow, that you have to work in that place. You are so far the only person from there that has actually made valid points in any kind of argument, and can type in mostly proper English. Run away while you can.

I personally have never railed on the work that the garage there does. I've never had work done there and I usually hear only good things about the actual work performed. It's the management, customer service, and shipping that are absolutely horrid. As such, they have gained a decent local reputation, and a pretty bad one everywhere else as far as the thirdgen community goes.

One point I must make though is that every person is allowed their opinion, even if it's running their mouth about how bad they think something is. You have to take the good with the bad, just shrug it off. The best move that any company (or person) makes is being above the competition by being smarter and more civilized, not one or the other.

whiteshadow87

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I enjoy working there. I love the cars and most of the people that work there. The shipping department has the ones that i dont like. For some reason it is really hard to find someone that is worth a sh*t to work back there. THe one back there now is a dumba**. I stay out of that area. Most of the time Roy is very personable, but some times, especially in the recent past and right now, he is dealing with a lot of things. Mostly someone that should be out of his life but refuses to leave. If you had any experience with the company, you should have no problem figuring that out. The guy that is the so called "third-gen expert", yeah, he doesnt work there anymore, was a complete dumba**, and hated by everyone there. I dont deal with the customer service stuff either, but from what i have seen, they are very good with the customers. This is all from my experiences.

12secformula

Wow, I hope you are not one of the guys that fixed the guy that posted in this threads car. http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383082.
I for one will never even attempt to deal with anyone at F body motorsports again, the guys are rude, arrogant, and do nothing in a timely manner. I won't hold it against anyone that the confrontation happened with however, it happens all to often at dragstrips for these EGO's to talk ****. I can tell you that from my dealings with F body Motorsports that I could have figured they would do this. You would think that the company hosting an event would keep it in there pants and stop trying to sword fight. I do believe that they should be out of business, there are plenty of good performance companies that have a good attitude, ship on time, that value there customers..there is no need for these guys whether they are an F body based business or not. whiteshadow87: You may be a good guy, I don't know...and I will not pass judgement because you admitted you work there. But sooner or later what comes around goes around...and the actions of that company will bite them in the ***.

Difflock

Having read that thread, it seems there is some element of doubt. 87whiteturd posted a lot of stuff which was wrong with the car before/whilst it was worked on. Could a mechanic have made that stuff up? Given the length of the post I doubt it, so maybe, maybe not. I'm NOT calling either party a liar because, at the moment, who knows who is the REAL good guy here?
The OVERALL consensus is that F-body M'sports are terrible to deal with mainly because of customer service as far as I can gather. However, arguments will now be set to run back and forth ever more

I'm glad I can deal with companies closer to home for my 3rdGen needs....

Mark.

camaro45804

man after reading all this stuff and taliking to f body motorsports prior to reading this
I
1. am glad i did not order from them
2. wonder y anyone would
3. glad i asked the wonderful question
who makes your fiberglass parts for you
i mean y would anyone want to buy from them and pay more that just calling gt and ordering them from there. and really y am i bothering even talking about this after 1 phone call i realized there no good

smokefan

its amazing that they are still in business. i emailed stacy for some parts and it took her only about 3 weeks to email me back. i actually forgot what parts i was asking about. either she is really busy or didnt think i was worth her time. i will never deal with them anyway after what they did with the wiring harness i ordered from them. hey is she good looking at least

camaro45804

[mod edit] this post has absolutely no place in this thread. [/mod edit]

Z28ricer

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First off I am in NO way defending them, as their poor service to customers seems to be repetitious.

However, its funny when you see how much people throw around how shops are rediculous and "rip people off" insinuating that they charged a rediculous amount for what was done.

In reality book time on what was replaced is about 26 hours, yes it may take a little less, or it could take more depending on what you run into. However the price charged for what was done is actually reasonable and probably only about $55/hr on the labor which definetly isnt high for a shop.

Just shows how cheap people are and how little they value the time required to do the job, and do the job properly.

CaysE

I honestly don't know who or what you are referring to. I didn't read anything about prices for shop work in this thread.

Z28ricer

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It was in the post that someone linked to on CZ28.com about the guy getting ripped off on his oil leak.

VroomVroom87Z28

you'll never find me ordering from them again. On the first occasion, I ordered a used steering column from them with the steering wheel, $75. I didn't think it was that bad considering how much a new sterring column will cost. they send me the wrong key to the ignition. Swap in the old ignition, prob. solved but annoying. Bought a 2" cowl hood from them, soon after found it for $100 less, could've got a ram-air hood for what I spent, at least that could function. I should've looked around more, but still their prices are two high.

However...I did recieve the parts, and did buy a parts car from them, which I desperatley needed the front end off of. While I don't like the way they do buisness and have had less than a pleasant exp. w/them, I did get what I needed.