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Old 01-10-2008, 09:50 AM
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does anyone even make carbon hoods, htahces, body kits ect.? i would love to get ahold of a fiber cowl hood for my trans am project
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I love carbon fiber, had it on one of my old cars, was obsessed with it. But, on a camaro or firebird....probably not, gotta keep em original!
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You do know you can put a carbon fiber hood on and PAINT it right?
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i heard if you scuff the the surface i think you can paint im not sure
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Of ciourse you can paint it, you dont see stock cars(stock with some carbon fiber parts) from the factory coming out unpainted, although it would be cool
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Of ciourse you can paint it, you dont see stock cars(stock with some carbon fiber parts) from the factory coming out unpainted, although it would be cool
It would but it doesn't scream America on it, stock looking F-body and Vette is what Americas all about.
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So buy a stock looking hood made out of carbon fiber and paint it. Buddy of mine used to race his Viper and for weight savings had carbon fiber doors. I couldn't even tell till he lifted one off it's hinges and handed it over to me. The thing was about as heavy as a winter coat.
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ditto on carbon fiber being painted. its just most of the tuner crowd dont like it painted because it looks cool i guess. we painted a carbon fiber hood for a dodge neon a while back. you treat like you would fiberglass. scuff it smooth and then prime and paint. thats how we done it anyway and it looked fine
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well does anyone even sell one? maybe a carbon fiber daytona hood? i would shell out the bucks for one (then get it painted)
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I agree about the carbon fiber. I do wish some company would start making carbon fiber products for american cars, even muscle cars. I personally got a 1969 El Camino SS that I have intention on racing. I would like some light weight parts but they simply aren't made. Hopefully somebody with huge $$$ sees this post and will start making parts for older GM.

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No reason for the Carbon fiber to be painted. It looks hot just as it sits
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Re: carbon fiber?

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I agree about the carbon fiber. I do wish some company would start making carbon fiber products for american cars, even muscle cars. I personally got a 1969 El Camino SS that I have intention on racing. I would like some light weight parts but they simply aren't made. Hopefully somebody with huge $$$ sees this post and will start making parts for older GM.

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No reason for the Carbon fiber to be painted. It looks hot just as it sits
Here is a link for carbon fibre hoods for our car

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/af...bon-fiber.html

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that shows for a camaro but do they sell for firebirds too? i have 1 of each but i have other plans for the camaro i wanna turn the trans am into a street racer scene style car.. so id probably leave it unpainted
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I make carbon fiber hoods for the camaro 82-92. Will accept eith louver or the new 91-92 style. Bolts right in all factory hinges and latch. Weight in at around 24lbs vs. the 60 of the factory hood. I also make a fiberglass version for cheaper. Ive recieved many compliments on the hood.
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Re: carbon fiber?

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I make carbon fiber hoods for the camaro 82-92. Will accept eith louver or the new 91-92 style. Bolts right in all factory hinges and latch. Weight in at around 24lbs vs. the 60 of the factory hood. I also make a fiberglass version for cheaper. Ive recieved many compliments on the hood.
If you can make CF hoods, make a Firebird one. You'll corner the market. Nobody makes a Firebird one.
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Re: carbon fiber?

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I make carbon fiber hoods for the camaro 82-92. Will accept eith louver or the new 91-92 style. Bolts right in all factory hinges and latch. Weight in at around 24lbs vs. the 60 of the factory hood. I also make a fiberglass version for cheaper. Ive recieved many compliments on the hood.

Do you make a stock IROC hood in CF? Prices! Pics! Address!
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It would but it doesn't scream America on it, stock looking F-body and Vette is what Americas all about.
...I wonder if he knows that the new ZR1 has exposed carbon fiber on it from the factory?
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Re: carbon fiber?

Originally Posted by Stephen
If you can make CF hoods, make a Firebird one. You'll corner the market. Nobody makes a Firebird one.

x2.

I'd love a CF powerbulge.
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I love carbon fiber.....
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Would you be able to do an ss style hood for a third gen camaro?
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if you make a daytona CF hood i will take loan out and sell my books for classes to get my hands on it!! we need a website or at least prices and pictures!
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Re: carbon fiber?

no one can afford them to make them reasonably priced... many here complain about the prices of fiberglass hoods and those are produced in rather large numbers. typical CF hood will run you $900+ range if it's mass produced by someone and a bit more obviously if it's not.

the material is getting so much more expensive now as well. i have 8 of my 14 interior pannels in CF and i've stopped because of the extreme cost. it looks cool but it just becomes a bit much.
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Re: carbon fiber?

Originally Posted by Kandied91z
no one can afford them to make them reasonably priced... many here complain about the prices of fiberglass hoods and those are produced in rather large numbers. typical CF hood will run you $900+ range if it's mass produced by someone and a bit more obviously if it's not.

the material is getting so much more expensive now as well. i have 8 of my 14 interior pannels in CF and i've stopped because of the extreme cost. it looks cool but it just becomes a bit much.
Ok... yeah i've not seen these CF panels your talking about. I don't know if i've ever even seen the interior of your ride. Holdin out on me man...
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Re: carbon fiber?

you can paint something to look like carbon fiber....buy a glass hood; paint it black, stretch some of that nonslip shelf liner stuff over it and paint it with silver, wait till its tacky, left the shelfliner off and hose on the clearcoat.

You can even shift the mat over after you apply the silver and add a different color like red or blue...all the tuner kids will rub their ***** on your stuff (YAY!)

I never understood the allure of carbon fiber unless youre a racer...especially if you paint over it...and NO ONE KNOWS ITS THERE...I suppose you could point to your 'glas cowl hood and say its CF; most people wont know
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Re: carbon fiber?

Originally Posted by 1badbotie
I make carbon fiber hoods for the camaro 82-92. Will accept eith louver or the new 91-92 style. Bolts right in all factory hinges and latch. Weight in at around 24lbs vs. the 60 of the factory hood. I also make a fiberglass version for cheaper. Ive recieved many compliments on the hood.

Do you have any pics, prices or links to your product?
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Re: carbon fiber?

I'm a big fan of the weight savings and strength of CF, but it is very expensive.

However, the one item that makes good sense in CF is a replica dashboard as the stock one weighs a lot and is definitely not structural. Doors make sense also, but I would be wary of the safety concerns of a side impact.
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www.extremedimensions.com
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I think they only had Camaro bits
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A carbon fiber deck lid is over 900
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Re: carbon fiber?

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does anyone even make carbon hoods, htahces, body kits ect.? i would love to get ahold of a fiber cowl hood for my trans am project
Do you have an unlimited budget? Hardly anyone out there buys the $4500 complete fiberglass bodies that are avaliable for our cars. Unless you are needing to cut the weight down and maintain the body for something like ALMS style racing, no one will make CF parts for you without large out lays in cash.

The CHEAPEST mold material is RenShape and its the bare minimum for a CF mold. It'll just about start melting at the temp the resins set (assuming you aren't specing a high temp resin). At the minimum, you'll need a negative and for great results you'll need a plug as well. RenShape aint cheap. Then you have to get the CF. There's more weaves and resins than you can shake a stick at. Minimum for a body panel that carries wind load is 5 layers, 2-3 for no load bearing panels.

A single one off prototype CF body would cost more than $5000 in mold material alone. Throw in machining, CF materials, bagging, consumable CF molding materials (thats well over $1k right there) and before you know it you've just put a $15000 body on a $1500 car (not trying to knock the value of our cars).
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Re: carbon fiber?

"An unlimited budget", I wish, I'm just trying to find CF body parts, so far I have found bonnet, hatch deck like pic above and rear spoiler. 1 Japanese company I found did the OEM IROC hood but has discontinued them , not sure why, they do the hood without the louvers I think for $1450aud....OEM hood on the black car.

White car CF hood without louvers.








They also do this hood




If anyone is interested .... http://www.primeworks.co.jp/catalog/Page/P20.htm

Carbon Creations do the CF deck & spoiler & the same hood as Vis Racing, see CF hoods here .... http://www.andysautosport.com/chevro...on_fiber_hoods


I think at $1500 for a maro you'd have a big project car, that might buy a burnt out wreck here in Oz, real nice examples go for $20,000aud plus,... If you know where I can get some low mileage sweet arsed maro's for $1500 let me know, I'll buy 5 of 'em.
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