jameecrockettRS

I was browsing camaro images on google, and came across this;<br>
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How Hard would this be to do? Cost? Etc?

FireDemonSiC

Get your hands on a Daytona hood, cut out the sections underneath the louvers and cut some decent plexi/lexan panels to match. Then all you gotta do is fabricate a gasket and fasten them down.

Me? IF I were to do something like this I'd probably try to source panels made from glass instead of plexi/lexan.

jameecrockettRS

Yea. I agree on the glass vs. plexi/lexan because I am sure that road dirt/sand would rather easily and rather quickly scratch the plexi to hell.

crazymonkey16

...why would you do glass, if I may ask? It'd be harder to shape, harder to drill holes to fasten without shattering, and it'd weigh more... would plexi really scratch that easily?

jameecrockettRS

Definitely due to the scratching effect of the road dirt. as stated above. IF I were to use plexi, then I would have to make some kind of cover for driving, and take them off at shows, etc.

jameecrockettRS

Perhaps I might do something similar to a Cowl or Big Block hood, Rather than the Daytona. I seem to only be able to find bolt on versions of it.

FireDemonSiC

Yes. Plexi is very easily scratched. I'd give 6 months tops and you would be seriously wishing you had opted for glass.

Yeah glass is a bit heavier, but we're not talking a windshield or hatch glass here. The difference would be negligible.

If taking the glass route, You'd probably have to have a specialty or fab shop do it up for you IE take them a louver and tell them you want it cut in that shape and where to drill the holes.

I'm sure they sell glass cutters, but I've never dabbled with them before. I HAVE however, had experience with drilling holes in glass (Don't ask me what for unless you want me to make your day). All it takes is a glass drillbit, some running water, patience and a delicate hand.

jameecrockettRS

Ideas on Cost? minus the hood of course.

FireDemonSiC

No idea. I believe it was around $5 - $10 for the bit. You'd also need the glass cutter and some glass, and I have no clue how much those go for.

You're also gonna need a pretty fresh engine bay or you're gonna look like a tool with this mod.

travis401

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glass cutters are a couple bucks at a home supply store or hobby shop. cutting glass isnt easy but if you take your time and do it right you can get a clean break (you dont cut it, you score it and then break it along the score line). you need a steady hand and patience. id personally go with a scratch resistant lexan instead of glass. theres a few companies that make scratch resistance lexan. it holds up better on road use, but isnt scratch proof.

jameecrockettRS

Glass isn't scratch proof either. I would like to also say that I intend on doing some engine dress up, and would like to know where to start.

travis401

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glass is a lot harder to scratch from road debris though. the scratch resistant lexan isnt as hard to scratch, but harder than normal plexi or untreated lexan.

akanitro

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Why wouldn't you want to use poly-carbonate? Just curious.

Charged350

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I'm glad to see people are stealing my ideas and work and copying it.

travis401

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lexan is poly carbonate?

Slash

^^^

Alex is the first to make this Hood, All Custom.

NYTHIRDGEN Representin'

Shadow Z

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Take it as a compliment man.

Pajjen

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There is a material that doesent scratch as easy as poly-carbonate and it is also much more durable, it doesnt cost much more than the poly-carbonate.

I dont remember what the name of that "glass" is but if i see it i can tell you.
I know that they sell it around here to excavators and such things.

akanitro

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lexan is one form of poly carbonate. I was thinking of a similar material called polymethyl-methacrylate (acrylic).

Pajjen

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now i know what its called here. Hammerglass is the name.

Charged350

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It's only a compliment when it's done right, the proper way so it looks right, many have tried since I invented this hood years ago and all have failed, some worse then others. The picture above is one of the better attempts, even tho it's still just screwed into the hood. I mean c'mon, put some effort in it.

TTOP350

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I deff wouldnt use that hood to start with. (i'm just not a fan)
Id use/make a stock 86-7 ish carbon fiber/ fiberglass hood .
Neatly cut the holes a half inch smaller than the than the louver.
Id make the the new covers out of scratch resistant lexan and heat the sides after cutting so they are nice an smooth.
I wouldn't screw them down either.
I'd use a 1/16inch thick bead of windshield urethane on the backside so it only shows a nice even half inch wide strip of black urethane around it.

You could use glass but its a pain to work with (for this app), rocks will scratch/break it and you would want to use safety glass. Just incase. My dad has owned a stained glass studio since I was a kid and I've been around glass since.

SDTransAM

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Well then enlighten us. Post some pics.

Charged350

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You can find the thread of my build on the forum. I just don't get why people gotta copy, be original come up with your own ideas.

Charged350

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BlackenedBird

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...d-hood-im.html

crazymonkey16

Not to be a pest, but... doesn't that just tell you how good an idea it is? I mean, people are trying to copy it because it looks nice, not because they've got a personal grudge against you or something. *shrug* but that's just my .

89_RS

I wouldn't use glass to begin with. First off, the difficulty in fabbing it is pretty steep. Secondly, you'll want some form of spalling shield on the motor side of the glass which means you're buying some form of laminated glass that is just as costly as the more advanced lexans out there. The most common scratch resistant lexan I've used is MR-10 lexan. Unless you're using MR-10 in a windshield application & DD (think use of wipers fairly regular here), MR-10 is pretty good.

peterc005

Perpsex is fine.

The windscreens of small planes are perspex. They typically fly around at 150 miles an hour and last for more than 10 years.

lt1zr28

I'm not sure how wanting to do this is stealing someone elses idea.If GM already did
the hood of a vett.Seems like I saw that in someones thread.

92 BBC Z

They make a polish specific for Perspex as well, removes crazing and other small scratch's.

92 BBC Z

right, he did say 'think zr1' when he was making his.

Charged350

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Look at the zr1, then look at my hood, does it look like a copy? No, now look at mine and look at the one on top, does it look like a copy, yes. That's all.

deadbird

If you don't want your ideas taken, don't share them.

travis401

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you do something unique and cool and of course people are gonna copy it. and just because you were the first to do a see through hood on a 3rd gen doesnt mean it hasnt been done a thousand times before on other cars. you just took someone elses idea and made it your own.

Charged350

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I don't mind if people try to use my idea and modify it and make it their own, but a carbon copy is a bit too much IMO, and if you are doing that, then make it look as good if not better then I did, evolving the mod into a better one, not hack jobs like I've seen and certainly not using screws to attach it to the hood, you get what I'm saying...

BlackenedBird

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Maybe you should sue Chevrolet for stealing YOUR idea & building the ZR1 with it?

Charged350

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They already paid out for that.

BlackenedBird

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Actually, you already said that you copied the idea from them.....

92 BBC Z

I think using fasteners is better, more forgiving. If you ever need to remove them for whatever reason, you could do it no prob. But not so easy if sealant or epoxy is used. If you paint the screw heads black, they become less noticable. But you could also fasten them from the underside. With fasteners the hood becomes 'adjustable' and have the ablity to custom change on-the-fly so to speak.

TTOP350

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Clear see thru hoods are a brand new idea.. Oldsmobile had TEN different "see-thru" hoods available between 1949 and 1953.

1949 Olds see thru hood. Granted this was a display unit but not a "new" idea by any strech..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hood-Oldsmob...sories&vxp=mtr

BlackenedBird

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Why stop at just a hood?


http://twistedsifter.com/2011/06/193...***-ghost-car/

Street Lethal

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Can't be... it just can't be!

Definitely not a new idea, but Charged gets the credit for that particular hood though...

travis401

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ive seen the see thru car pic before. i like it.

Pillsbry10

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lol maybe you should patent your idea otherwise quit complaining

91phoenix

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He did say in the original thread that there is a TM with a circle around it. That means he did patent it.

I had not seen this before now but I do like it. I gave a similar idea to a friend when he was thinking of getting another hood for his Z28. However I had not thought of this.
To Charged350 I give you a big thumbs up on the original.

Pillsbry10

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Then file a lawsuit lol

BlackenedBird

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He wants us to believe that he already sued GM, won & GM paid him.

I wanna see his Patent or Trademark for the hood.