Suspension and Chassis Questions about your suspension? Need chassis advice?

Are all A-arms the same

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-13-2010, 08:04 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
rogslayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Laurel, DE
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Are all A-arms the same

As the title says, are all A-arms the same on 82-92 models, just wondering because I got one off an 84 to put on a 92. I'm assuming they are just wanna double check.
Old 06-13-2010, 08:50 PM
  #2  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Are all A-arms the same

From what I know, And I could never confirm this because I never personally checks but I think the steering stops riveted onto the a-arms are slightly different posistioned between the 15" factory wheel cars and the 16" factory wheels cars. I put 16" factory IROC wheels on a factory 15" RS car and the wheels would rub until I welded a little more material onto the factory a-arm stops.
Old 06-13-2010, 08:54 PM
  #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
rogslayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Laurel, DE
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Are all A-arms the same

think A-arms from a 14 inch wheel car to a 15 inch wheel car would throw off the end links any?
Old 06-13-2010, 08:58 PM
  #4  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Originally Posted by rogslayer
think A-arms from a 14 inch wheel car to a 15 inch wheel car would throw off the end links any?
No, That should all line up.

Sway bar links are always a little cockeyed. Best to install both sides just barely together first, making sure you have both sides attached before you start tightening either side.

Often also people use slightly shorter endlinks and suffer from this result also. Longer links help with better alingment, but too long of links will cause contact of the swaybar into the chassis during articulation of suspension function
Old 06-13-2010, 09:32 PM
  #5  
Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
JamesC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 19,282
Received 93 Likes on 68 Posts
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Originally Posted by Vetruck
From what I know, And I could never confirm this because I never personally checks but I think the steering stops riveted onto the a-arms are slightly different posistioned between the 15" factory wheel cars and the 16" factory wheels cars.
According to the Parts and Illustration Catalog, Dean, you're correct, the two are different.
Example:

Stop, Lwr Cont Arm-RH (82-84) (85-87 Exc 16" Whl) (88-89 Exc Z28) (90-91 Exc 16" Whl).

Stop, Lwr Cont Arm-RH (85-87 W/16" Whl) (88-89 W/Z28) (90-91 W/16" Whl)

Moreover, the Bumpers are different as well:

Bumper, Lwr Cont Arm (1982-84) (1985-87 Exc FEZ) (1988-91 W/15" Whl) P/N 10068783

Bumper, Lwr Cont Arm (1985-87 W/FEZ) (1988-91 W/16" Whl) P/N 14089443

JamesC

Last edited by JamesC; 06-22-2010 at 11:31 AM.
Old 06-13-2010, 09:35 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
rogslayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Laurel, DE
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Are all A-arms the same

well the passenger side lines up, but the drivers side is so far off the bumpstop on the a arm will hit the sway bar
Old 06-13-2010, 11:16 PM
  #7  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Originally Posted by JamesC
According to the Parts and Illustration Catalog, Dean, you're correct, the two are different.
Example:

Stop, Lwr Cont Arm-RH (82-84) (85-87 Exc 16" whl) (88-89 Exc Z28) (90-91 Exc 16" whl).

Stop, Lwr Cont Arm-RH (85-87 W/16" whl) (88-89 W/Z28) (90-91 W/16" whl)

JamesC
Thank you James, I have never seen that confirmed.
Old 06-13-2010, 11:17 PM
  #8  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Originally Posted by rogslayer
well the passenger side lines up, but the drivers side is so far off the bumpstop on the a arm will hit the sway bar
Sound to me like you bent the swaybar
Old 06-13-2010, 11:18 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
rogslayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Laurel, DE
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Are all A-arms the same

i tried another one it lines up the same
Old 06-13-2010, 11:30 PM
  #10  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Can you try taking apart the connected side and starting by attaching this side first? see if that renders the same problem on the other side.
Old 06-13-2010, 11:38 PM
  #11  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
rogslayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Laurel, DE
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Are all A-arms the same

I've tried hooking each side up first, the drivers side always comes out having a bad angle on the endlink, this post will tell why I'm having the problem I've replaced most of the parts https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ot-lining.html
Old 06-13-2010, 11:47 PM
  #12  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (4)
 
Scorpner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MN
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 85 SC, 86 Berlinetta
Engine: V6, V8
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Since it was brought up I noticed this too. From the Global West site, they list different part numbers for the lower arm bushings with the cut off being mid year of 1983.

http://www.globalwest.net/1982-02_Ca...m_bushings.htm

Part# 1021 ( fits 1982 to mid 83) $150.41 per car

Part# 1022 (fits mid 1983-92) $150.41 per car
Old 06-14-2010, 06:59 AM
  #13  
Junior Member

 
tom camaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bedford, VA
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 83 Camaro
Engine: LT1 SD Mode 30lb/hr
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Are all A-arms the same

The 82-83 ones have a smaller bushing. The are all the same bushings from then out.
Old 06-14-2010, 11:19 AM
  #14  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Lets conclude the given facts-

'82- '83 1/2 A-arms: small ear bushings/15" wheel stops

'83 1/2-'92 A-arms: Large ear bushings...two types of stops/ a) 15" wheel stops, and b) 16" wheel stops

This concludes there are 3 types of factory A-arm options if one were to get something out of a salvage yard.
Old 06-14-2010, 11:41 AM
  #15  
Junior Member

 
tom camaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bedford, VA
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 83 Camaro
Engine: LT1 SD Mode 30lb/hr
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Are all A-arms the same

82-83 1/2 have a busing diamater of 1 5/8 "
83 1/2 92 Have bushing dia of 1.915" according to my notes from Global West.
Old 06-14-2010, 01:15 PM
  #16  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
rogslayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Laurel, DE
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Are all A-arms the same

ok thanks all
Old 06-14-2010, 11:09 PM
  #17  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (4)
 
Scorpner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MN
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 85 SC, 86 Berlinetta
Engine: V6, V8
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Originally Posted by tom camaro
82-83 1/2 have a busing diamater of 1 5/8 "
83 1/2 92 Have bushing dia of 1.915" according to my notes from Global West.
Thanks for the info! Was that on their website or something you have on hand? Just curious since I was looking on the website and didn't see anything specific like that.
Old 06-23-2010, 11:02 PM
  #18  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (17)
 
Chevy86 IROC-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Far West
Posts: 4,903
Received 30 Likes on 23 Posts
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 Tuned Port Injection, for now.
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Posi - 3.23
Re: Are all A-arms the same

Ok guys. Im desperate and I need help as in tonight because tommorrow (Thursday) Im going to hit the junk yard early in the morning. So my understanding is that the 16" (85-92) wheel has the large ear right? So then does the 92 RS have 16" wheels? In otherwords, Is my 86 IROC's front control arrns the same as the 92 RS's control arm?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ed1LE
Suspension and Chassis
8
09-30-2018 09:14 AM
Thirdgen89GTA
NW Indiana and South Chicago Suburb
5
10-19-2015 09:27 AM
sweet_87_iroc
Camaros for Sale
5
09-25-2015 10:01 PM
92projectcamaro
Suspension and Chassis
10
09-24-2015 08:09 AM
Thirdgen89GTA
NW Indiana and South Chicago Suburb
0
08-20-2015 03:11 PM



Quick Reply: Are all A-arms the same



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:25 PM.